Are "as likely" and "more likely" interchangeable here?
I remember a WaPoo map of c.1990 homicides: hundreds in black SE and NE, many in 2 or 3 spots, and all of one in white NW. That was before gentrification started, and DC had about 200k fewer people than now.
Of course, this is compared to the 2020 highs. Which I knew even then were unsustainably high, even for Bell Curve City, and were inevitably going to come down due to nothing more complicated than good ole fashioned regression to the mean. Galton wins again.
The benchmark year that tells us whether or not crime today is too high should not be 2020 or even 1990. It should be 1960.
Because why should it be any higher? If you could go back and tell people from the '50s what kind of crime fighting resources are available today they would assume we barely have any crime at all.
Back in the 1940s, starting when she was 8, my little blond mother would take the bus by herself from Arlington to DC to do the family shopping. No trouble ever.
Of course that was when there were open fields in Arlington and she could catch butterflies.
How the government and all its hangers-on have grown.
Somehow all that force - and it is force - hasn't made things safer.
Several years ago, Chicago Magazine published a two part series on crime. The articles pointed out that the police department fudged the crime numbers to make them look low. I lived in Chicago and still have family there. One relative knows personally a few cops and they tell him that many crimes and so common that they are not even reported. I am reasonably sure that the same occurs in other big cities dominated by Democrats.
A lot of feeling of out of control disorder comes from the Democrats deciding that property crimes are not really crimes but just insurance issues. Those low level property crimes punish the poor but Democrats do not seem to care.
How? Good question. Democrats run the public (government) schools. Democrats run the teachers' unions. The teachers colleges are run by Marxists and other rebels against the Moral Order. Those who enforce the law give Black criminals a pass, until they accumulate a long rap sheet. They suppress information and statistics that make Blacks look bad--thus protecting anti-social behavior.
There you go again, Steve, discussing race and crime calmly and rationally. Let's hope Trump keeps doing smart things like fighting crime rather than dumb things.
Is it a good idea? I mean the city 90%+ hates his guts with a passion….what does he have to get it of it? It’s not like reducing crime by 15% is going to win him accolades.
I imagine the powers that be are also licking their chops for any sort of video of a black teen being mistreated, which is inevitable I think
Mighty interesting how crime exploded during the 1960s -- before Home Rule. How much of that was the sense of revolution at the time? How much due to less racist policing? How much to The Great Society. And how much was simply Baby Booomers entering their peak crime years?
No, and in the 60’s the Canada I knew, mostly Vancouver was not ethnically diverse except for some very conservative asian residents. Seattle was much more diverse and our black neighborhoods crime rates soared in the late 60’s. Great Society was toxic.
You're seeing it in the news. Even the Mayor of DC is reluctantly welcoming the Guard deployment. It sends a message to the criminal element that there’s a new sheriff in town.
If local enforcement can’t or won’t do the job as a result of incompetence, corruption, sloth, cowardice, or concerns about adverse impact or litigation exposure, or what have you, I think it’s perfectly appropriate for the Feds to step in as they’ve done in many circumstances where we’ve had a breakdown a law and order, whether it be for riots or other reasons. One thing that’s important to note is that the people whom the progressive Democrats (who advocate defunding police and decarcerating violent criminals) purport to represent welcome in many cases, the deployment as well, because they’re the ones who bear the brunt of the thug violence. I’ve been reading a lot about people who are actually progressive Democrats, who are speaking the truth for once.
One particular journalist who spent some time in DC said about half of his friends reported getting mugged or robbed violently. He didn’t like that, so what he is saying is the Democrats just cherry-pick statistics like Hakeem Jefferies is doing about acrimony going down 30%. DC has a lot of reporting issues— one of the senior police officials—-and this is the progressive journalist saying that,! Not me, one of the senior officials is under investigation -and is suspended I think because he’s been downcoding crimes to keep the numbers good. A lot of games are getting played, but murders aren’t because it's hard to hide dead bodies. They’re bad -way disproportionate to what they are on a per capita basis in basically peer cities like New York City for example—highly urban areas with what you might call ghettos or under-invested communities. There are rough neighborhoods— somebody challenged one of the pale male Democrats who’s been criticizing Trump to go take a walk at night around certain neighborhoods in DC—alone with no staff or bodyguards. I haven’t heard the response but there’ll be accusations of racism and fascism and everything else, but the fact is the people in those communities don’t like getting robbed and beaten up any more than anyone else who is fortunate enough not to live in those areas.
So I think Democrats are kind of falling into Trump‘s trap. He’s gonna look tough on crime and a lot of people who the Democrats think they own are all for that—they’d like their neighborhoods to be safe. The presumption or the appearance is the Democrats are stereotyping their voters saying Well sure they’re violent criminals but you know it’s our fault because of reparations and slaveryi and all the other grievances. That’s not how mostnkf their base feel about crime. I live in a very integrated,!diverse lneighborhood and so I’m a next-door in my neighborhood and every day I see so several posts about you know, somebody stole stuff off my porch when we gotta find this guy and get them on the street those folks in my neighborhood regardless of their ethnicity or their color or whoever wanna put it they don’t like it anybody else does you know they’re working folks? They’re trying to learn a living like their own house to get Amazon deliveries just like everybody else now like it when somebody steals it off their porch so I think Democrats have to get real on this and they have to start dealing with the realities of who they represent themselves in the position of representing criminals. Fortunately, there are more victims than there are criminals criminals we shouldn’t be voting if they’re convicted villains so my thought is they try to represent paying citizens in their party at least if they win election they might consider expanding the tent to law by tax pain citizens who are independence or maybe even Maga people I don’t think that people who are are beyond conversion, who they gonna vote for me Democrats are talking about the police and Decarlos the criminals. Nobody in their right mind gonna vote for that. I don’t care what color they are drink something got to change. They’re falling right into Trump’s trap. OK deploy the garden. Maybe Graham will go down. I’m sure he’ll be able to find some statistics and say that things seemed to calm down in LA with the ice riots and all I think you should send them to Portland’s that city is like the antifa capital of the world and doesn’t get depressed. I don’t know why conservative media doesn’t seem to cover it. I don’t watch cable progressive media. They just put their heads in the sand or maybe they could be supporting.
Yeah, the other thing Trump is doing is he trying to deport criminals and violent criminals particularly one thing Democrats seem to understand their constituents again Hispanic people don’t particularly relish the font of having illegal criminals, especially gangbanger coming into the country under the pretense of the polls that are very supportive of getting these criminals out my fear the boomerang back guys come back for time now obviously more controversial is the idea of taking law abiding citizens with been here for years of kids and I am sympathetic. I think they’re the criminal guys working hard for a living out here. I don’t know I’m not enthusiastic about that. I am in support of closing the board because if you’re not gonna you’re basically negating the whole idea of the nation state and then what are we gonna do take 8 billion people and I don’t think so. Even Bernie Sanders understands that you can’t do that if you’re gonna have his socialist paradise, you can’t have healthcare for all of all 8 billion people—we can’t afford there there, but I think Democrats are getting played by Trump, which is no disease they take the I got a king Jefferies throw around unbelievable numbers about DC everybody who lives there knows that there’s a problem that is big balls against the hell Adam playing hero trying to stop a car that happened that wasn’t like Jesse Smollet type of fake news story— it shouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t happen anywhere but certainly not in our nation’s capitol. I don’t think the American people think that, but the mayor doesn't see things the same way so go figure.
You're seeing it in the news. Even the Mayor of DC is reluctantly welcoming the Guard deployment. It sends a message to the criminal element that there’s a new sheriff in town.
If local enforcement can’t or won’t do the job as a result of incompetence, corruption, sloth, cowardice, or concerns about adverse impact or litigation exposure, or what have you, I think it’s perfectly appropriate for the Feds to step in as they’ve done in many circumstances where we’ve had a breakdown a law and order, whether it be for riots or other reasons. One thing that’s important to note is that the people whom the progressive Democrats (who advocate defunding police and decarcerating violent criminals) purport to represent welcome in many cases, the deployment as well, because they’re the ones who bear the brunt of the thug violence. I’ve been reading a lot about people who are actually progressive Democrats, who are speaking the truth for once.
One particular journalist who spent some time in DC said about half of his friends reported getting mugged or robbed violently. He didn’t like that, so what he is saying is the Democrats just cherry-pick statistics like Hakeem Jefferies is doing about acrimony going down 30%. DC has a lot of reporting issues— one of the senior police officials—-and this is the progressive journalist saying that,! Not me, one of the senior officials is under investigation -and is suspended I think because he’s been downcoding crimes to keep the numbers good. A lot of games are getting played, but murders aren’t because it's hard to hide dead bodies. They’re bad -way disproportionate to what they are on a per capita basis in basically peer cities like New York City for example—highly urban areas with what you might call ghettos or under-invested communities. There are rough neighborhoods— somebody challenged one of the pale male Democrats who’s been criticizing Trump to go take a walk at night around certain neighborhoods in DC—alone with no staff or bodyguards. I haven’t heard the response but there’ll be accusations of racism and fascism and everything else, but the fact is the people in those communities don’t like getting robbed and beaten up any more than anyone else who is fortunate enough not to live in those areas.
So I think Democrats are kind of falling into Trump‘s trap. He’s gonna look tough on crime and a lot of people who the Democrats think they own are all for that—they’d like their neighborhoods to be safe. The presumption or the appearance is the Democrats are stereotyping their voters saying Well sure they’re violent criminals but you know it’s our fault because of reparations and slavery and all the other grievances. That’s not how most of their base feel about crime. I live in a very integrated,!diverse lneighborhood and so I’m on. The next door app in my neighborhood and every day I see so several posts about how somebody stole stuff off my porch and we gotta find this guy and get them off the street—those folks in my neighborhood regardless of their ethnicity or their color or however you wanna put— it they don’t like it anymore than anybody else does—they’re working folks. They’re trying to earn a living, own their own house, get Amazon deliveries just like everybody else. They don't like it when somebody steals it off their porch, so I think Democrats have to get real on this and they have to start dealing with the realities of who they represent and not put themselves in the position of representing criminals. Fortunately, there are more victims than there are criminals criminals, and they shouldn’t be voting if they’re convicted felons, so my thought is they try to represent tax paying citizens in their party at least; if they want to win the occasional national election, they might consider expanding the tent to law abiding, tax paying citizens who are independents or maybe even Maga people. I don’t think thise people who are are beyond conversion, but who they gonna vote for me Democrats are talking about the defunding police and decarcerating the criminals. Nobody in their right mind gonna vote for that. I don’t care what color they are// something got to change. They’re falling right into Trump’s trap. OK deploy the guard. Maybe crime will go down. I’m sure he’ll be able to find some statistics to say that—things seemed to calm down in LA with the ICE riots and all. I think you should send them to Portland’s— that city is like the antifa capital of the world and doesn’t get press. I don’t know why l—conservative media doesn’t seem to cover it. I don’t watch cable—progressive media just put their heads in the sand or maybe they could be supporting.
Yeah, the other thing Trump is doing is he trying to deport criminals and violent criminals particularly;one thing Democrats seem to understand their constituents again—Hispanic people don’t particularly relish the thought of having illegal criminals, especially gangbangers, coming into the country under the pretense of asylum— polls are very supportive of getting these criminals out— my fear is they boomerang back—guys come back four times. Now now obviously more controversial is the idea of taking law abiding citizens with been here for years of kids, and I am sympathetic. I think the guys working hard for a living out here—I’m not enthusiastic about that. I do support of closing the board because if you’re not gonna, you’re basically negating the whole idea of the nation state and then what are we gonna do—take 8 billion people—I don’t think so. Even Bernie Sanders understands that you can’t do that if you’re gonna have his socialist paradise, you can’t have healthcare for all of all 8 billion people—we can’t afford there there, but I think Democrats are getting played by Trump. Hakeen Jefferies throw lsaround unbelievable numbers about DC —everybody who lives there knows that there’s a problem—big balls playing hero trying to stop a carjacking-that happened, that wasn’t like Jesse Smollet type of fake news story— it shouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t happen anywhere but certainly not in our nation’s capitol. I don’t think the American people think that, but the mayor doesn't see things the same way so go figure.
As someone who lived in DC for a decent length of time including in a black neighborhood, one of the things I immediately learned is that 95% of whites have zero idea of what goes on day to day in majority black communities, including whites who live in DC but in the nice parts of NW. Every single day you are reminded that their culture is completely different from your own, and it's just automatic, not some conscious reaction against whiteness. I could go on for paragraph after paragraph with examples, but the bottom line is that blacks are quite comfortable with a level of disorder and dysfunction in their environment that is hard for people to believe without having seen it firsthand. Usually the response is "that's not representative of all of them" and it's not, but it is for a large enough share that it inflicts huge amounts of economic and cultural damage that far outstrips everyone else.
This of course has all sorts of terrible downstream effects, obviously with an incredible murder rate being a prominent one. Since the civil rights era, our cultural overlords have successfully inculcated a taboo against open discussion of any of this, and to the extent it can be addressed it's only obliquely, such are references to "youth" or "root causes." This is changing however, and Trump's willingness to essentially usurp black political leadership is moving the Overton window. However it goes, it opens the door to more people questioning the competency of black leaders in addressing persistent problems - and they should, as their record is essentially unblemished by success. From there, we will see an erosion of the primacy of black political demands in our culture, and once those are relegated to their proper place (last) then we can have a better functioning society and perhaps reclaim larger areas of our cities.
It is amazing that every middle class black in the greater DC area has a story about being involved in a hit and run. How many whites are ever involved in a hit and run accident.
In my old neighborhood a driver hit a 6 year old and drove off, never caught despite there being some video showing the vehicle and the mom saw it from her porch. No sense of responsibility or obligation from the driver and no one seemed surprised. The kid died.
> I could go on for paragraph after paragraph with examples, but the bottom line is that blacks are quite comfortable with a level of disorder and dysfunction in their environment that is hard for people to believe without having seen it firsthand. <
Excellent summation, Boulevardier. Comfortable with--and generating--a high level of disorder strikes me as the key issue.
One of--perhaps the key--irony of the modern age is all these whites continuously bleating about wondrous "diversity!", who at core espouse this delusional ideology that "everyone's the same".
Their distance from the daily reality of what this all means allows them to curate a false internal narrative based on what media they decide to consume and a social circle that when it does include ‘diverse’ people they are totally unrepresentative.
The Free Press is starting to catch on. They shut off commenting before I found their article, or I'd have posted at least two links to Steve's postings right here. Astonishing it is that the Free Press author thinks anyone would be surprised at his conclusion.
So what happens if Trump goes whole hog on bringing order to DC and basically resets it to 1950s/early 1960s before the JFK assassination levels of cleanliness and Order? It's not like it's a major challenge to pretty much suppress all street level crime. But what would DC being a shining beacon of Order do? Would it cause other city-dwellers in the US to demand their city follow suit?
I'm by nature a soft-hearted guy--just a big puddy tat. But now as an old guy who has seen what's been done to my nation by our "elites" over the course of my life, I can report that I don't really give a shit about crime in DC.
The murders are no doubt eugenic. And why I should GAF about all the girls-with-BAs who flock to DC to "help" or "fix America" feeling "safe" when they are out on the town is beyond me. (They should be married to a guy doing something actually productive and having his babies.) And if their assorted soy boys get beatup now and again--good!
As I've said before, we are way beyond mere policy disagreements. These people are not even part off the same nation anymore. There is no point in even having any sort of politics with people who are not *loyal* to the polity. People who are not loyal to the nation should not even be in the nation--much less voting. These people are not loyal to Americans and their interests--in fact hostile to and destruction of them. Why the heck should I be loyal to them.
What is amazing is the number of people who claim that they support the citizens and then find ways to detest large number of their fellow citizens such as Jews, women, blacks, and Hispanics.
97x seems a bit extreme, almost as if “Black Lives don’t Matter “.
Are "as likely" and "more likely" interchangeable here?
I remember a WaPoo map of c.1990 homicides: hundreds in black SE and NE, many in 2 or 3 spots, and all of one in white NW. That was before gentrification started, and DC had about 200k fewer people than now.
Are "as likely" and "more likely" interchangeable here?
I would say “no.” 97x as likely would be equivalent to 96x more likely.
Let’s see whether Steve replies to your query.
Right, I should have written "97 times as likely."
"Crime is down," so saith the narrativemongers.
Of course, this is compared to the 2020 highs. Which I knew even then were unsustainably high, even for Bell Curve City, and were inevitably going to come down due to nothing more complicated than good ole fashioned regression to the mean. Galton wins again.
The benchmark year that tells us whether or not crime today is too high should not be 2020 or even 1990. It should be 1960.
Because why should it be any higher? If you could go back and tell people from the '50s what kind of crime fighting resources are available today they would assume we barely have any crime at all.
Crime rates are not randomly chosen out of a Gaussian Distribution and thus, do not really fit the improperly named regression to the mean.
Anything that's way off kilter relative to its historical or ordinary median is bound to readjust.
Not true all of the time. Technological and cultural change can and does eliminate many trends.
It might be down for non-blacks.
Back in the 1940s, starting when she was 8, my little blond mother would take the bus by herself from Arlington to DC to do the family shopping. No trouble ever.
Of course that was when there were open fields in Arlington and she could catch butterflies.
How the government and all its hangers-on have grown.
Somehow all that force - and it is force - hasn't made things safer.
Several years ago, Chicago Magazine published a two part series on crime. The articles pointed out that the police department fudged the crime numbers to make them look low. I lived in Chicago and still have family there. One relative knows personally a few cops and they tell him that many crimes and so common that they are not even reported. I am reasonably sure that the same occurs in other big cities dominated by Democrats.
A lot of feeling of out of control disorder comes from the Democrats deciding that property crimes are not really crimes but just insurance issues. Those low level property crimes punish the poor but Democrats do not seem to care.
Is it being caused by Democrats or by blacks?
Democrats groom Blacks for failure and crime.
How? I’m Canadian and have little experience with blacks.
Replace "Black" with "Indian" for Canada readers.
Dot Indians? They’re not particularly violent. A lot smarter than blacks too.
How? Good question. Democrats run the public (government) schools. Democrats run the teachers' unions. The teachers colleges are run by Marxists and other rebels against the Moral Order. Those who enforce the law give Black criminals a pass, until they accumulate a long rap sheet. They suppress information and statistics that make Blacks look bad--thus protecting anti-social behavior.
Requires grooming?
Nah. Same black problem worldwide.
Same perps (commies and their friends) world wide.
There you go again, Steve, discussing race and crime calmly and rationally. Let's hope Trump keeps doing smart things like fighting crime rather than dumb things.
Is it a good idea? I mean the city 90%+ hates his guts with a passion….what does he have to get it of it? It’s not like reducing crime by 15% is going to win him accolades.
I imagine the powers that be are also licking their chops for any sort of video of a black teen being mistreated, which is inevitable I think
I think he’s making a mistake. An extremely draconian regime (like Singapore) might help but he can’t do that. No way.
Mighty interesting how crime exploded during the 1960s -- before Home Rule. How much of that was the sense of revolution at the time? How much due to less racist policing? How much to The Great Society. And how much was simply Baby Booomers entering their peak crime years?
Blame is on drugs, economic downturn, the break up of the family, and the great society rewarding single motherhood.
It didn’t explode in Canadian cities. Might have increased a bit due to boomers but nothing like the US.
No, and in the 60’s the Canada I knew, mostly Vancouver was not ethnically diverse except for some very conservative asian residents. Seattle was much more diverse and our black neighborhoods crime rates soared in the late 60’s. Great Society was toxic.
Right, no diversity except for a few Chinese and Japanese.
That has changed. After Hong Kong, there was a Chinese diaspora. They bought the Island. I used to go to little Italy. Wonderful.
Democrats work against the interests of their black base when they resist reforms.
What would work, that Trump could plausibly do?
You're seeing it in the news. Even the Mayor of DC is reluctantly welcoming the Guard deployment. It sends a message to the criminal element that there’s a new sheriff in town.
If local enforcement can’t or won’t do the job as a result of incompetence, corruption, sloth, cowardice, or concerns about adverse impact or litigation exposure, or what have you, I think it’s perfectly appropriate for the Feds to step in as they’ve done in many circumstances where we’ve had a breakdown a law and order, whether it be for riots or other reasons. One thing that’s important to note is that the people whom the progressive Democrats (who advocate defunding police and decarcerating violent criminals) purport to represent welcome in many cases, the deployment as well, because they’re the ones who bear the brunt of the thug violence. I’ve been reading a lot about people who are actually progressive Democrats, who are speaking the truth for once.
One particular journalist who spent some time in DC said about half of his friends reported getting mugged or robbed violently. He didn’t like that, so what he is saying is the Democrats just cherry-pick statistics like Hakeem Jefferies is doing about acrimony going down 30%. DC has a lot of reporting issues— one of the senior police officials—-and this is the progressive journalist saying that,! Not me, one of the senior officials is under investigation -and is suspended I think because he’s been downcoding crimes to keep the numbers good. A lot of games are getting played, but murders aren’t because it's hard to hide dead bodies. They’re bad -way disproportionate to what they are on a per capita basis in basically peer cities like New York City for example—highly urban areas with what you might call ghettos or under-invested communities. There are rough neighborhoods— somebody challenged one of the pale male Democrats who’s been criticizing Trump to go take a walk at night around certain neighborhoods in DC—alone with no staff or bodyguards. I haven’t heard the response but there’ll be accusations of racism and fascism and everything else, but the fact is the people in those communities don’t like getting robbed and beaten up any more than anyone else who is fortunate enough not to live in those areas.
So I think Democrats are kind of falling into Trump‘s trap. He’s gonna look tough on crime and a lot of people who the Democrats think they own are all for that—they’d like their neighborhoods to be safe. The presumption or the appearance is the Democrats are stereotyping their voters saying Well sure they’re violent criminals but you know it’s our fault because of reparations and slaveryi and all the other grievances. That’s not how mostnkf their base feel about crime. I live in a very integrated,!diverse lneighborhood and so I’m a next-door in my neighborhood and every day I see so several posts about you know, somebody stole stuff off my porch when we gotta find this guy and get them on the street those folks in my neighborhood regardless of their ethnicity or their color or whoever wanna put it they don’t like it anybody else does you know they’re working folks? They’re trying to learn a living like their own house to get Amazon deliveries just like everybody else now like it when somebody steals it off their porch so I think Democrats have to get real on this and they have to start dealing with the realities of who they represent themselves in the position of representing criminals. Fortunately, there are more victims than there are criminals criminals we shouldn’t be voting if they’re convicted villains so my thought is they try to represent paying citizens in their party at least if they win election they might consider expanding the tent to law by tax pain citizens who are independence or maybe even Maga people I don’t think that people who are are beyond conversion, who they gonna vote for me Democrats are talking about the police and Decarlos the criminals. Nobody in their right mind gonna vote for that. I don’t care what color they are drink something got to change. They’re falling right into Trump’s trap. OK deploy the garden. Maybe Graham will go down. I’m sure he’ll be able to find some statistics and say that things seemed to calm down in LA with the ice riots and all I think you should send them to Portland’s that city is like the antifa capital of the world and doesn’t get depressed. I don’t know why conservative media doesn’t seem to cover it. I don’t watch cable progressive media. They just put their heads in the sand or maybe they could be supporting.
Yeah, the other thing Trump is doing is he trying to deport criminals and violent criminals particularly one thing Democrats seem to understand their constituents again Hispanic people don’t particularly relish the font of having illegal criminals, especially gangbanger coming into the country under the pretense of the polls that are very supportive of getting these criminals out my fear the boomerang back guys come back for time now obviously more controversial is the idea of taking law abiding citizens with been here for years of kids and I am sympathetic. I think they’re the criminal guys working hard for a living out here. I don’t know I’m not enthusiastic about that. I am in support of closing the board because if you’re not gonna you’re basically negating the whole idea of the nation state and then what are we gonna do take 8 billion people and I don’t think so. Even Bernie Sanders understands that you can’t do that if you’re gonna have his socialist paradise, you can’t have healthcare for all of all 8 billion people—we can’t afford there there, but I think Democrats are getting played by Trump, which is no disease they take the I got a king Jefferies throw around unbelievable numbers about DC everybody who lives there knows that there’s a problem that is big balls against the hell Adam playing hero trying to stop a car that happened that wasn’t like Jesse Smollet type of fake news story— it shouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t happen anywhere but certainly not in our nation’s capitol. I don’t think the American people think that, but the mayor doesn't see things the same way so go figure.
You're seeing it in the news. Even the Mayor of DC is reluctantly welcoming the Guard deployment. It sends a message to the criminal element that there’s a new sheriff in town.
If local enforcement can’t or won’t do the job as a result of incompetence, corruption, sloth, cowardice, or concerns about adverse impact or litigation exposure, or what have you, I think it’s perfectly appropriate for the Feds to step in as they’ve done in many circumstances where we’ve had a breakdown a law and order, whether it be for riots or other reasons. One thing that’s important to note is that the people whom the progressive Democrats (who advocate defunding police and decarcerating violent criminals) purport to represent welcome in many cases, the deployment as well, because they’re the ones who bear the brunt of the thug violence. I’ve been reading a lot about people who are actually progressive Democrats, who are speaking the truth for once.
One particular journalist who spent some time in DC said about half of his friends reported getting mugged or robbed violently. He didn’t like that, so what he is saying is the Democrats just cherry-pick statistics like Hakeem Jefferies is doing about acrimony going down 30%. DC has a lot of reporting issues— one of the senior police officials—-and this is the progressive journalist saying that,! Not me, one of the senior officials is under investigation -and is suspended I think because he’s been downcoding crimes to keep the numbers good. A lot of games are getting played, but murders aren’t because it's hard to hide dead bodies. They’re bad -way disproportionate to what they are on a per capita basis in basically peer cities like New York City for example—highly urban areas with what you might call ghettos or under-invested communities. There are rough neighborhoods— somebody challenged one of the pale male Democrats who’s been criticizing Trump to go take a walk at night around certain neighborhoods in DC—alone with no staff or bodyguards. I haven’t heard the response but there’ll be accusations of racism and fascism and everything else, but the fact is the people in those communities don’t like getting robbed and beaten up any more than anyone else who is fortunate enough not to live in those areas.
So I think Democrats are kind of falling into Trump‘s trap. He’s gonna look tough on crime and a lot of people who the Democrats think they own are all for that—they’d like their neighborhoods to be safe. The presumption or the appearance is the Democrats are stereotyping their voters saying Well sure they’re violent criminals but you know it’s our fault because of reparations and slavery and all the other grievances. That’s not how most of their base feel about crime. I live in a very integrated,!diverse lneighborhood and so I’m on. The next door app in my neighborhood and every day I see so several posts about how somebody stole stuff off my porch and we gotta find this guy and get them off the street—those folks in my neighborhood regardless of their ethnicity or their color or however you wanna put— it they don’t like it anymore than anybody else does—they’re working folks. They’re trying to earn a living, own their own house, get Amazon deliveries just like everybody else. They don't like it when somebody steals it off their porch, so I think Democrats have to get real on this and they have to start dealing with the realities of who they represent and not put themselves in the position of representing criminals. Fortunately, there are more victims than there are criminals criminals, and they shouldn’t be voting if they’re convicted felons, so my thought is they try to represent tax paying citizens in their party at least; if they want to win the occasional national election, they might consider expanding the tent to law abiding, tax paying citizens who are independents or maybe even Maga people. I don’t think thise people who are are beyond conversion, but who they gonna vote for me Democrats are talking about the defunding police and decarcerating the criminals. Nobody in their right mind gonna vote for that. I don’t care what color they are// something got to change. They’re falling right into Trump’s trap. OK deploy the guard. Maybe crime will go down. I’m sure he’ll be able to find some statistics to say that—things seemed to calm down in LA with the ICE riots and all. I think you should send them to Portland’s— that city is like the antifa capital of the world and doesn’t get press. I don’t know why l—conservative media doesn’t seem to cover it. I don’t watch cable—progressive media just put their heads in the sand or maybe they could be supporting.
Yeah, the other thing Trump is doing is he trying to deport criminals and violent criminals particularly;one thing Democrats seem to understand their constituents again—Hispanic people don’t particularly relish the thought of having illegal criminals, especially gangbangers, coming into the country under the pretense of asylum— polls are very supportive of getting these criminals out— my fear is they boomerang back—guys come back four times. Now now obviously more controversial is the idea of taking law abiding citizens with been here for years of kids, and I am sympathetic. I think the guys working hard for a living out here—I’m not enthusiastic about that. I do support of closing the board because if you’re not gonna, you’re basically negating the whole idea of the nation state and then what are we gonna do—take 8 billion people—I don’t think so. Even Bernie Sanders understands that you can’t do that if you’re gonna have his socialist paradise, you can’t have healthcare for all of all 8 billion people—we can’t afford there there, but I think Democrats are getting played by Trump. Hakeen Jefferies throw lsaround unbelievable numbers about DC —everybody who lives there knows that there’s a problem—big balls playing hero trying to stop a carjacking-that happened, that wasn’t like Jesse Smollet type of fake news story— it shouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t happen anywhere but certainly not in our nation’s capitol. I don’t think the American people think that, but the mayor doesn't see things the same way so go figure.
As someone who lived in DC for a decent length of time including in a black neighborhood, one of the things I immediately learned is that 95% of whites have zero idea of what goes on day to day in majority black communities, including whites who live in DC but in the nice parts of NW. Every single day you are reminded that their culture is completely different from your own, and it's just automatic, not some conscious reaction against whiteness. I could go on for paragraph after paragraph with examples, but the bottom line is that blacks are quite comfortable with a level of disorder and dysfunction in their environment that is hard for people to believe without having seen it firsthand. Usually the response is "that's not representative of all of them" and it's not, but it is for a large enough share that it inflicts huge amounts of economic and cultural damage that far outstrips everyone else.
This of course has all sorts of terrible downstream effects, obviously with an incredible murder rate being a prominent one. Since the civil rights era, our cultural overlords have successfully inculcated a taboo against open discussion of any of this, and to the extent it can be addressed it's only obliquely, such are references to "youth" or "root causes." This is changing however, and Trump's willingness to essentially usurp black political leadership is moving the Overton window. However it goes, it opens the door to more people questioning the competency of black leaders in addressing persistent problems - and they should, as their record is essentially unblemished by success. From there, we will see an erosion of the primacy of black political demands in our culture, and once those are relegated to their proper place (last) then we can have a better functioning society and perhaps reclaim larger areas of our cities.
It is amazing that every middle class black in the greater DC area has a story about being involved in a hit and run. How many whites are ever involved in a hit and run accident.
In my old neighborhood a driver hit a 6 year old and drove off, never caught despite there being some video showing the vehicle and the mom saw it from her porch. No sense of responsibility or obligation from the driver and no one seemed surprised. The kid died.
> I could go on for paragraph after paragraph with examples, but the bottom line is that blacks are quite comfortable with a level of disorder and dysfunction in their environment that is hard for people to believe without having seen it firsthand. <
Excellent summation, Boulevardier. Comfortable with--and generating--a high level of disorder strikes me as the key issue.
One of--perhaps the key--irony of the modern age is all these whites continuously bleating about wondrous "diversity!", who at core espouse this delusional ideology that "everyone's the same".
Their distance from the daily reality of what this all means allows them to curate a false internal narrative based on what media they decide to consume and a social circle that when it does include ‘diverse’ people they are totally unrepresentative.
This is why any sane and humane person despises the BLM movement.
> Blacks are 97x As Likely to Be Murdered in D.C. <
That's because D.C. whites' direct their murderous impulses outward toward us flyover whites, not toward each other.
Comment of the month.
The Free Press is starting to catch on. They shut off commenting before I found their article, or I'd have posted at least two links to Steve's postings right here. Astonishing it is that the Free Press author thinks anyone would be surprised at his conclusion.
https://www.thefp.com/p/the-murder-rate-is-plummeting-youll
They only allow comments for a few days.
I hope young D’Quarvious behaves himself.
So what happens if Trump goes whole hog on bringing order to DC and basically resets it to 1950s/early 1960s before the JFK assassination levels of cleanliness and Order? It's not like it's a major challenge to pretty much suppress all street level crime. But what would DC being a shining beacon of Order do? Would it cause other city-dwellers in the US to demand their city follow suit?
First, such a reset is not going to happen. Trump has the attention span of a toddler and will quickly move on. See Los Angeles.
Wow. DC seems to have a black crime problem!
I'm by nature a soft-hearted guy--just a big puddy tat. But now as an old guy who has seen what's been done to my nation by our "elites" over the course of my life, I can report that I don't really give a shit about crime in DC.
The murders are no doubt eugenic. And why I should GAF about all the girls-with-BAs who flock to DC to "help" or "fix America" feeling "safe" when they are out on the town is beyond me. (They should be married to a guy doing something actually productive and having his babies.) And if their assorted soy boys get beatup now and again--good!
As I've said before, we are way beyond mere policy disagreements. These people are not even part off the same nation anymore. There is no point in even having any sort of politics with people who are not *loyal* to the polity. People who are not loyal to the nation should not even be in the nation--much less voting. These people are not loyal to Americans and their interests--in fact hostile to and destruction of them. Why the heck should I be loyal to them.
I wonder what percentage of these staters take vacations within the US, vs. travel to Europe. They're more at home in Paris than Pittsburg.
What is amazing is the number of people who claim that they support the citizens and then find ways to detest large number of their fellow citizens such as Jews, women, blacks, and Hispanics.