completely nothing, he's half-black half-Asian as he ticked. How about we debate his housing plan or how to solve the unaffordability of New York in 2025? Endless race baiting and race talk is exhausting, always ignoring the actual problems and the actual reasons why radicals like Mamdani are gaining popularity
Nothing? Oh, it's definitely something. And, no, most of us don't buy into your "root causes for political radicalism" claptrap. Some people just like to see the world burn.
so New Yorkers are voting for their own city to get even worse on purpose? Certainly a theory. If you want to see the world burn, continuing to vote for the globalist neoliberals like Cuomo is certainly your best bet considering there's constantly almost a World War III level spark event threat on 3 continents
Yes, they are. Often because, like Momdani, they don't know any better.
I'm currently reading a history on anarchism in the U.S. Every one of these idiots thinks they got it figured out. And then when the fire they deliberately set burns their own face, they are as surprised as anyone.
I'm not saying things won't get worse under Mamdani it's certainly possible, but what I am saying is that the frustrations obviously come from somewhere. If people weren't frustrated, they would just vote for the status quo, as happens everywhere where things are going well. You don't vote out politicians you like. I was recently in the United States, and there are some homeless loonies wearing Anarchist shirts walking about, but not enough to spin an election in New York
Frustration is usually internal and radical political ideology typically has nothing to do with objective circumstances.
Why were Jewish and Italian immigrants to the U.S. so inclined to socialism, communism and anarchism in the early 20th centuries? Was life in the U.S. so bad? Of course not. It was the richest place on earth and had among the highest - if not _the_ highest - per capita income.
Those immigrants brought their ideologies with them. You think Momdani came here from Africa in 1998 and in his short life here figured out that he needs to take over the means of production for us Americans to prosper?
We Italians abandoned that quickly, though we were more oppressed. The Jewish immigrants turned it into a self-serving industry. Not the majority of them by any means. Just the wealthiest and loudest.
well life for those immigrants was pretty awful - slums, discrimination etc. How do you explain New Yorkers born in New York voting for Mamdani then? Communist training camps must be in every foreign country also. It’s sort of astounding to me how you’re just brushing all of material reality and experiences in New York for New Yorkers under the rug lol
more of what? nowhere have i supported anything Mamdani’s going to do, its entirely possible every single thing gets worse, thats not what ive been talking about
First, you are incorrect. He is not half black. He is zero percent black. Secondly, if you don’t like race baiting, liars, and ignoring actual problems to focus on red herrings, you should be at the front of the line condemning this race baiting liar for his falseness, duplicity and divisiveness.
he's born in East Africa and his father is East African? I do condemn Mamdani for the annoying diversity stuff and a lot of his policies, but putting attention on this instead of actual issues makes us look petty and childish
Exactly. The same people who say race doesn’t exist and Mamdani is black because he was born in Uganda hated Rachel Dolezeal as a race pretender and would lambast Musk if he applied to college as African. These people just hate whites.
i mean race is a thing in the same way eye colour is a thing, and i quite like white people i oppose mass immigration and the diversity push by the elites
if his father has actually said that (i'd like to see it), then i'm fine to be corrected. My point is that focusing on this instead of his policies doesn't help
When you know from the get go he’s a hard core false self and a liar, why bother noting that his “policies” are also horseshit? Nothing about this phony is to believed, much less taken seriously.
not taking him or his ideas seriously is catastrophic, you can’t just plug your ears and la la la real anger and frustration. Shouting “socialist!” won’t work either for anyone under 40 - the more Republicans talk about foreign policy whilst not discussing kitchen table issues, the more likely an AOC presidency in 2029 is. Don’t like it? Seriously engage with them
This guy scares me because he reminds me a lot of Obama. If NYC doesn't totally combust under his leadership, look for a Mamdani-for-President movement to form.
He is going to skate because he was born in Africa, so he is as black as Freddie Mercury.
> actress Mindy Kaling’s brother
The family name is Chokalingam; their real-life parents appeared in The Office season 3 episode Diwali playing Kelly's parents. Her mother was an obgyn who died 13½ years ago.
I would assume this is going to be a huge negative with black voters but I would guess most them were already planning on voting for Adams anyway. Are white liberals good with this? Going to guess that they are.
He looks neither black nor Indian. He's actually very light-skinned, and I thought at first he was Iranian, especially given an Iranian-sounding last name (Mamdani). Obviously he's not black, but even the Indian identity somehow isn't a good fit for him. The Indians I know don't look like that. He's more of a MENA type.
If I saw Mamdani walking around Wall Street in his suit and tie, I'd guess he's a Wall Street guy who is maybe half Italian, a quarter Jewish, and a quarter Irish.
Much better guess. We're bombarded today with "near-whites" on our screens which stretches our recognition window but he definitely wouldn't pass the Calais test. As a quiet aside to Steve-Irish and Italians are not people I would goad unnecessarily.
Sorta, but ¼ Jewish would imply one of his grandparents married outside our faith, which was still pretty rare in that generation. The way to bet would be ½ Jewish, ¼ Irish, ¼ Italian.
Ex-Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s parents emigrated from East Africa, as did those of the former Tory Home Secretaries Priti Patel and Suella Braverman. Grandchildren of South Asian emigré clerks seem to be good at getting themselves into power in their new countries.
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular, is down there somewhere having the last laugh
Eric Blair(aka George Orwell) was born in India to a Anglo-Indian mother from Burma. She had a French father. Orwell's great-grandfather owned two Jamaican plantations with slaves. So what does that make Orwell? Burmese? Indian? French? Jamaican? English?
No, her father was French, her mother English, she was born in England but grew up in Burma. Anglo-Indian is like Anglo-Irish: English people resident in another country.
When I saw this my mind immediately went back to the below link regarding a poly market bettor who scored big by identifying Mamdani as displaying sociopathic traits.
Becoming rich by becoming a "noticer" seems to be easier this day and age!
How come these sociopath politician guys don't have ex-girlfriends coming out of the woodwork? You'd think that's an easy thing, have her on your podcast talking about how he "gaslit" her or something.
I was surprised to learn some time ago that there's a substantial Indian population in Africa. In fact, in South Africa "Indian" is one of the main racial categories. Africa experienced Indian immigration in some ways similar to how North America experienced European immigration.
If you haven’t read it already, you might enjoy the 1979 novel, A Bend in the River, by the Nobel Prize winning novelist, V. S. Naipaul. The main character, an Indian from the east coast of Africa, leaves home to settle in the interior.
The fact that his father was on the Columbia faculty may have been his undoing, at least as far as his checking the "African American" box on the Columbia application. I'm reminded of Long John Baldry's "Don't Try to Lay No Boogie Woogie on the King of Rock'n Roll."
Public Service Announcement: Makes pretty miserable reading but apparently a deal was done and the mother plead guilty so the daughters could be unknowing of the fraud in which they participated. Given they started their own business as sellers of native tat, their lack of knowledge seems unlikely. Anyway, 3 years in the slammer for mum, and she has to pay back the $160K, which got both the sisters degrees. She's paid $130K back so far. Notably she has several millions in real estate-3 houses at least and is a serial fraudster working at a charity/NGO since the 00s from which she stole @$800K. No info on how they came to be where they were in the first place
Opportunistic shape shifter. Race profiteer. The artist formally known as “Liar”.
completely nothing, he's half-black half-Asian as he ticked. How about we debate his housing plan or how to solve the unaffordability of New York in 2025? Endless race baiting and race talk is exhausting, always ignoring the actual problems and the actual reasons why radicals like Mamdani are gaining popularity
Nothing? Oh, it's definitely something. And, no, most of us don't buy into your "root causes for political radicalism" claptrap. Some people just like to see the world burn.
so New Yorkers are voting for their own city to get even worse on purpose? Certainly a theory. If you want to see the world burn, continuing to vote for the globalist neoliberals like Cuomo is certainly your best bet considering there's constantly almost a World War III level spark event threat on 3 continents
Yes, they are. Often because, like Momdani, they don't know any better.
I'm currently reading a history on anarchism in the U.S. Every one of these idiots thinks they got it figured out. And then when the fire they deliberately set burns their own face, they are as surprised as anyone.
I'm not saying things won't get worse under Mamdani it's certainly possible, but what I am saying is that the frustrations obviously come from somewhere. If people weren't frustrated, they would just vote for the status quo, as happens everywhere where things are going well. You don't vote out politicians you like. I was recently in the United States, and there are some homeless loonies wearing Anarchist shirts walking about, but not enough to spin an election in New York
Frustration is usually internal and radical political ideology typically has nothing to do with objective circumstances.
Why were Jewish and Italian immigrants to the U.S. so inclined to socialism, communism and anarchism in the early 20th centuries? Was life in the U.S. so bad? Of course not. It was the richest place on earth and had among the highest - if not _the_ highest - per capita income.
Those immigrants brought their ideologies with them. You think Momdani came here from Africa in 1998 and in his short life here figured out that he needs to take over the means of production for us Americans to prosper?
We Italians abandoned that quickly, though we were more oppressed. The Jewish immigrants turned it into a self-serving industry. Not the majority of them by any means. Just the wealthiest and loudest.
well life for those immigrants was pretty awful - slums, discrimination etc. How do you explain New Yorkers born in New York voting for Mamdani then? Communist training camps must be in every foreign country also. It’s sort of astounding to me how you’re just brushing all of material reality and experiences in New York for New Yorkers under the rug lol
And you think more of this will help?
America is overwhelmingly a stable, frugal, amicable country. Get the heck out of millionaire commie NYC next time.
more of what? nowhere have i supported anything Mamdani’s going to do, its entirely possible every single thing gets worse, thats not what ive been talking about
First, you are incorrect. He is not half black. He is zero percent black. Secondly, if you don’t like race baiting, liars, and ignoring actual problems to focus on red herrings, you should be at the front of the line condemning this race baiting liar for his falseness, duplicity and divisiveness.
he's born in East Africa and his father is East African? I do condemn Mamdani for the annoying diversity stuff and a lot of his policies, but putting attention on this instead of actual issues makes us look petty and childish
Here is his father:
https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1940920722052047006
The white people there need to learn some humility, or flee. The only war left is the class war.
Here’s a picture of his mother,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_Nair
The brown and ajewish people left there need some humility. The only war left there is the class war. They need to flee.
It wasn’t like that under Idi Amin. Persecution was fierce.
Mamdani is as African as Elon Musk. He is a brother.
Exactly. The same people who say race doesn’t exist and Mamdani is black because he was born in Uganda hated Rachel Dolezeal as a race pretender and would lambast Musk if he applied to college as African. These people just hate whites.
i mean race is a thing in the same way eye colour is a thing, and i quite like white people i oppose mass immigration and the diversity push by the elites
Mandami has no black ancestry.
His dad looks kind of like FDR:
https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1940920722052047006
you know that for sure? I mean its possible in Uganda that his father is entirely of Indian descent, but you can't tell his ancestry based off a photo
Just admit you’re wrong. His father is Indian. In looks, in self identification and in fact. So is his mother.
Dad looks Pakistani and so more Aryan. His mother is Hindu. Wonder what caste she is.
if his father has actually said that (i'd like to see it), then i'm fine to be corrected. My point is that focusing on this instead of his policies doesn't help
When you know from the get go he’s a hard core false self and a liar, why bother noting that his “policies” are also horseshit? Nothing about this phony is to believed, much less taken seriously.
well every politician we like also lies, especially at 16 lol
not taking him or his ideas seriously is catastrophic, you can’t just plug your ears and la la la real anger and frustration. Shouting “socialist!” won’t work either for anyone under 40 - the more Republicans talk about foreign policy whilst not discussing kitchen table issues, the more likely an AOC presidency in 2029 is. Don’t like it? Seriously engage with them
According to South African laws he is white.
In Apartheid time, he would be classified as Indian/Asian. They changed classifications post-Apartheid.
He’s not black at all, look at his photo.
Your point is echoed by numerous NYT commenters, however.
What offends me is that he claimed to be "American" in 2009.
In fact it offends me that he claims to be American now.
He’s a naturalized citizen. We have a whole slew of these Ugandan Indians in Canada, too.
He wasn't a citizen in 2009 when he claimed to be African AMERICAN.
And "naturalized citizen" = not really American, anyway.
As good a definition as I've seen
I’m not an American as you know, but if he had settled in Canada I would consider him a Canadian.
Well, there's your problem right there
Watch it, you're verging on birtherism there.
This guy scares me because he reminds me a lot of Obama. If NYC doesn't totally combust under his leadership, look for a Mamdani-for-President movement to form.
He is going to skate because he was born in Africa, so he is as black as Freddie Mercury.
> actress Mindy Kaling’s brother
The family name is Chokalingam; their real-life parents appeared in The Office season 3 episode Diwali playing Kelly's parents. Her mother was an obgyn who died 13½ years ago.
I would assume this is going to be a huge negative with black voters but I would guess most them were already planning on voting for Adams anyway. Are white liberals good with this? Going to guess that they are.
Adams will win at least 80 % of the black vote in New York City.
At this point it seems like the most benign course for treating this cancer.
He looks neither black nor Indian. He's actually very light-skinned, and I thought at first he was Iranian, especially given an Iranian-sounding last name (Mamdani). Obviously he's not black, but even the Indian identity somehow isn't a good fit for him. The Indians I know don't look like that. He's more of a MENA type.
He could also be Iberian. He’s quite ethnically ambiguous, like Thomas Chatterton Williams.
If I saw Mamdani walking around Wall Street in his suit and tie, I'd guess he's a Wall Street guy who is maybe half Italian, a quarter Jewish, and a quarter Irish.
Armenian would be a better guess, especially for you LA guys. But, if not that, perhaps Iranian.
As my Armenian friend says, Armenians are too brown to be white and too white to be brown.
He could be an Ara Halijian. Or a Ahmad Al-Bakr or even Juan Valdez.
I hear Cliff Curtis is playing him in the soon to be released biopic
Much better guess. We're bombarded today with "near-whites" on our screens which stretches our recognition window but he definitely wouldn't pass the Calais test. As a quiet aside to Steve-Irish and Italians are not people I would goad unnecessarily.
He looks a bit like like a less muscular version of ex-Marine comic actor Rob Riggle:
https://www.justjared.com/2024/11/10/celebrities-who-served-in-the-military-in-honor-of-veterans-day-2024/3/
Sorta, but ¼ Jewish would imply one of his grandparents married outside our faith, which was still pretty rare in that generation. The way to bet would be ½ Jewish, ¼ Irish, ¼ Italian.
Ex-Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s parents emigrated from East Africa, as did those of the former Tory Home Secretaries Priti Patel and Suella Braverman. Grandchildren of South Asian emigré clerks seem to be good at getting themselves into power in their new countries.
We have lots of them in Canada too.
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular, is down there somewhere having the last laugh
He was quite something all right!
Eric Blair(aka George Orwell) was born in India to a Anglo-Indian mother from Burma. She had a French father. Orwell's great-grandfather owned two Jamaican plantations with slaves. So what does that make Orwell? Burmese? Indian? French? Jamaican? English?
His mother was part Indian?
No, her father was French, her mother English, she was born in England but grew up in Burma. Anglo-Indian is like Anglo-Irish: English people resident in another country.
That’s what I thought.
Exactly. She had no Hindu blood.
When I saw this my mind immediately went back to the below link regarding a poly market bettor who scored big by identifying Mamdani as displaying sociopathic traits.
Becoming rich by becoming a "noticer" seems to be easier this day and age!
https://open.substack.com/pub/polymarket/p/he-made-300k-betting-on-a-narcissistic?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=i2m8
How come these sociopath politician guys don't have ex-girlfriends coming out of the woodwork? You'd think that's an easy thing, have her on your podcast talking about how he "gaslit" her or something.
Because homo?
I was surprised to learn some time ago that there's a substantial Indian population in Africa. In fact, in South Africa "Indian" is one of the main racial categories. Africa experienced Indian immigration in some ways similar to how North America experienced European immigration.
If you haven’t read it already, you might enjoy the 1979 novel, A Bend in the River, by the Nobel Prize winning novelist, V. S. Naipaul. The main character, an Indian from the east coast of Africa, leaves home to settle in the interior.
Outstanding book chock-full of iStevey content!
For a while the Indian Gupta brothers essentially owned the South African government via their deep ties with president Jacob Zuma.
The fact that his father was on the Columbia faculty may have been his undoing, at least as far as his checking the "African American" box on the Columbia application. I'm reminded of Long John Baldry's "Don't Try to Lay No Boogie Woogie on the King of Rock'n Roll."
Especially because his Columbia professor dad looks like a cross between Barney Frank and Jack Lemmon.
Not the kind of face that Idi Amin would recognize as true Ugandan.
An evil man will burn his own country to the ground just to rule over the ashes…
What are the chances that the laptop warriors will observe the damages of communism and maybe grow up?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66890945.amp
South Asian immigrant mum filled out applications for daughters as Inuit
Daughters old enough to know and did not object
Canada takes that very seriously. Don’t try it. Buffy Sainte-Marie was exposed by CBC as a fake Indian whose family background is Italian.
"Takes seriously" as in social shaming or "takes seriously" as in prosecution?
Social shaming. Trudeau went bonkers over natives but he didn’t get that far before being tossed out of office.
It stopped at the CBC program showing the proof (including a birth certificate and an interview with a sibling) that her native claim was not true.
CBC does it to please activist natives. They become like blacks in the US: sacred.
Public Service Announcement: Makes pretty miserable reading but apparently a deal was done and the mother plead guilty so the daughters could be unknowing of the fraud in which they participated. Given they started their own business as sellers of native tat, their lack of knowledge seems unlikely. Anyway, 3 years in the slammer for mum, and she has to pay back the $160K, which got both the sisters degrees. She's paid $130K back so far. Notably she has several millions in real estate-3 houses at least and is a serial fraudster working at a charity/NGO since the 00s from which she stole @$800K. No info on how they came to be where they were in the first place
I refer to him as Madmani.
The NYT commenters are furious. Sample (heavily liked):
“Please, please do not do hit pieces on this man who is one of the few sources of hope that most of us have in this country. Just stop.”
In other words if he was a Republican they’d be all over the story. It would be Rachel Dolezal level anger.
"It's ok if we do it", basically.
Yes. Elizabeth Warren paid no price for claiming she was part (native) Indian.