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the Ghost Of Josey Wales's avatar

The original controversy sparked by Musk was in fact a matter of two sides discussing two very different problems. Vivek.. well, anyone surprised by his position is also probably surprised when their dog pisses on a fire hydrant or the proverbial face eating leopard eats their face.

Companies like Musk’s I’m sure do struggle to recruit talent and only hire the best and the brightest.

The real scandal isn’t hiring at Tesla or Space X - it’s hiring at Wal Mart, Verizon, Blue Cross Blue Shield, or UPS. Over the last 15 years I’ve consulted in Dev Ops for about half of the Fortune 100, and nearly all have followed the Disney model - laying off Americans or purging them via attrition, only to replace with very low skilled, fake credentialed Indians. Entire floors of 100s of keyboard monkeys and every single one is Indian with maybe a few first generation tokens to act as intermediaries. This is done not just to save money, but to expand the power of middle managers and advance their careers. It is a productivity killer and of course overtly illegal if anyone bothered to look. Companies like Nike have had some minor trouble with this, but company like ATT and Verizon have pulled thousands of CS jobs off the table in cities like Dallas and Atlanta and Phoenix and at most these jobs require a Bachelors, arguably less.

Like many high IQ execs in pure tech, Elon has no exposure to how low IQ, low trust, and low productivity these teams are at legacy corps. Vivek on the other hand absolutely knows and supports it wholeheartedly. If it wasn’t obvious after the Ezra Klein podcast, it certainly is obvious now that Vivek thinks America is successful by accident. He inadvertently made Ann Coulter’s point for her by only citing media consumption habits from the 90s and failing to recognize that our Homecoming Kings won world wars and put men on the moon. Unlike Indians and the Chinese - we can do both. At no point in our culture - even at its zenith - did our youth worship Screech. They worshipped Jon Wayne and Elvis and built a civilization while Vivek’s people were still burning widows and prosecuting witches.

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gymcel's avatar

Most people coming from India on H1Bs are literally just completely average IT workers. I worked with many of them at a fortune 20 company. They aren't anything special. We would be fine without them.

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