I’m glad he’s doing what he’s doing but I’m with you. Put your thinking hat on and look at the long game. I have a lot of Canadian friends who took offensive and they are from conservative Alberta.
So they responded by voting for people who hate them and want to replace them with Indians? The whole attitude of letting Trump influence the election is pathetic. The Canadian Jeb Bush lost, I don't care.
I doubt they had a better platform. I am responding to a comment and a column implying that a critical number of their voters were so offended by what the leader of a foreign country said they voted to continue the destruction of Canada rather than change course even slightly. Maybe a significant number are refusing to vote entirely because the conservative party is too far left for them, but that isn't what is being reported.
They were not great, but at least they said that they would not follow the Century Initiative which is a private initiative to increase our population to 100 million by the end of the century.
From the CIC
The Conservative Party’s election platform rejects the Century Initiative’s plan to drastically grow Toronto to a city of 33.5 million, Montreal to a city of 12.2 million, Vancouver to a city of 11.9 million, Calgary-Edmonton to cities of 15.5 million, and Ottawa-Gatineau to a city of 4.8 million within a single lifetime.
Also
167. Birthright Citizenship
We encourage the government to enact legislation which will fully eliminate birthright citizenship in Canada unless one of the parents of the child born in Canada is a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
OK, tepid and lukewarm, but better than the Liberals.
Canada will do what it will. The Albertans were disappointed that their voter, very conservative seemed to be negated by Trump’s rhetoric. They might just ask for asylum and move to Texas.
I don't expect that the Liberal minority government will last four years as it is not in the interest of any of the opposition parties to support a minority Liberal government. When the time is right, the Liberal government will be executed. As much as I think Trump has mis-managed Canadian affairs, I hope he sticks it to the Liberals. The Liberals are the enemies of the right and should be politically damaged as much as possible. I hope for Prime Minister Carney to be on his knees like the American president in Superman II (who oddly looked a lot like Howard Baker).
My wife is Canadian, and both her, and her family in Toronto and Montreal, are livid about Trump's 51st state rhetoric.
They were broadly sympathetic to Trump right after the election, but the trade war and wild talk about becoming another U.S. state has sent them over the edge.
I know most Americans could care less about Canada, but Canada is an important trading partner, and both countries have had very friendly relations for many decades, so I admit to being flummoxed by Trump's strategy, or lack thereof.
He had to know it would be wildly offensive to Canadians, and I don't see how it benefits the U.S. in any way... so why needlessly aggravate such a close ally?
A system of government where the PM cheered on the arson of churches because of an idiotic understanding of ground radar is beyond fixing with elections. The Canadian people have shown repeatedly they don't have the will to defend themselves from their tyrannical elite. I don't care what offends them.
Right; Canada is just as binary as the U.S. with really two dominant parties, even though you have to form a "coalition government". So it really boiled down to Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum for election choices; both candidates in thrall to big money donors. You currently have no maverick style political leader willing to take risks and revise the rules of the domestic game.
Yeah I got the impression the Canacons are like the Republicans pre-Trump. I personally rather like Canadians, and my daughter is currently a student at UBC, but Ottawa is completely wrecking the country with no signs of slowing down.
Canada, what with all the new "Canadians" is starting to become a liability that's looking like a problem we're eventually going to have to deal with at great expense, like Mexico. I go up to visit my daughter, stop to pick up some stuff for her in Richmond, and it feels like I'm back in Hong Kong.
Canada's freeloading country that gets to sit there sheltered by the United States of America. If they want to vote for leftist tyrants that is their business.
Why needlessly freeload on an ally?? Canada has treated the United States manufacturers horriblely. I reject any sort of hurt stance.
Can't disagree, but Trump is, and always has been, a package deal. Since surviving the 2 assassination attempts, that deal is on amphetamines. Gotta look for the silver linings, or you'll go crazy over the next 4 years. I remember every summer, the low-life carnival would come to town when I was a kid. The thought that Trump has somehow made it seem necessary for the Canadian Boomers to elect a Carney as their PM is kind of a hoot. Norm Macdonald, thou shouldest be living at this hour! Plus, I enjoy spending time in Nova Scotia and PEI in early fall (i.e., after black fly season). Carney will have the Canadian Loonie down to 50 (US) cents by then.
I get the sentiment but “playing nice” is how we got here in the first place. Nobody knows if the conservative would have won regardless of what Trump did. And would he have been materially different from Carnivalbarker? History suggests not. So if Canadians want to have Trump tell them how to vote, more power to them I suppose. Better luck next time Canada! Hope you survive long enough for a next time.
When you elect a horse's ass as your president, you are going to have to accept the bad with the good. Hopefully there will be fewer own-goals going forward, because this was a bad one
Yes, Trump was pretty stupid in his unnecessary bating of the Canadians and trying to start a trade war with a country that he himself negotiated an updated trade deal with only six years ago. If I was Canadian I’d be pissed off too.
Let’s repeat this Donnie, the only bilateral trade relationship that matters is “Chyna!” Keeping good relationships with our allies is kind of important!
Wait, what? Are you trolling? Poilievre’s campaign was terrible. The only hope he had was engaging with some rationality on tariffs, which Canada has been screwing the USA on for years. Even then, that was a long shot. Instead, he chose to put no space between himself and Carney, a straight from central-casting “technocrat” who will proceed to fly Canada into a mountainside. Trump is working to serve the USA. It only feels weird because no President has been committed to that since Kennedy or Eisenhower.
People need to accept that Canada is controlled by leftist boomers who are invested in house prices, government workers (about 25% of voters) and immigrants (Canada’s foreign-born population is enormous — 25+% of voters). Very soon to be the latter two. Canada is doomed by the takers outnumbering the makers.
Yes, Canada is doomed if it maintains its current course, and how does alienating millions of conservative leaning Canadians who were impressed with Trump help anyone?
Trump should be exclusively focused on helping the U.S., and offending our enemies and near enemies would be quite welcome, but spitting in the eye of our next door neighbor and trading partner borders on the ridiculous.
Trump can negotiate more favorable trade deals with close allies without vomiting in their laps.
Patriotic Canadians and Canadian nationalists have always been anti-American. The decline of Britain and the lure of economic gains made Canadian business interests more amenable to the US over the past several decades, but Trump has alienated this aspect with his tariffs and threats.
"In 1970, Creighton wrote “Canada’s First Century,” another eulogy like Grant’s. In the current issue of “The Dorchester Review,” Donald Wright of the University of New Brunswick summarizes Creighton’s view in that book: Canada, a noble project, “collapsed beneath the weight of American power, British weakness, and its own venal Liberal prime ministers.”
Creighton hated the Americans but, like Grant, hated Liberals even more. He believed that the survival of Canada as a separate nation depended on a “united front by Great Britain and the whole of British North America against the United States.” Creighton thought it would have been better if the Confederacy had won the Civil War; that would have made the United States less dangerous."
Trump should have been specific about what to do with most of the eastern and west coast Canadians. They might not like El Salvador, but Venezuela and Cuba ought to suit them. I gather some have vacationed there for decades.
So 8D Trumpism is that he is pushing Canada to kneejerk embrace Socialism so the USA can poach Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba who do not want to be party to Socialist Canada.
He will lose the House and we will spend the last two years of his term listening to clowns like Adam Schiff prattle on endlessly about the end of democracy.
How could a rational electorate entrust governance once again to a party under whose leadership the country experienced negative GDP per capita growth, record-breaking increases in housing and rental prices due to artificially constrained supply, and unprecedented levels of mass immigration—much of it skewed toward lower-wage or lower-skilled labor? Only Sudan has had a higher rate of population growth than Canada, yet Canada has built hardly any new housing relative to that growth.
There was very little substantive discussion of housing policy throughout the debates. Shockingly, immigration wasn’t even a topic in any of the televised English-language debates. Only the Quebec debates addressed it, and even then it was all generalities and banalities—nothing specific. No one wants to talk about the formation of ethnic enclaves where English is rarely spoken. Much like the rest of the Anglosphere, the discourse is besotted with political correctness and self-censorship.
There should be rightful anger and disgust directed at Donald Trump—but not at the expense of holding the Liberal government accountable for a decade of mismanagement.
The Canadian election feels like an MSNBC-watching American voter in the Bay Area voting against Trump while surrounded by homeless encampments, legalized drug use, constant property crime, car break-ins, and unaffordable rents—yet still obsessing over Trump and voting Democrat due to TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), rather than judging the liberal governance around them.
Canadian Boomers put their TDS ahead of improving Canada. They effectively sold out their country in the name of Trump hatred.
Look at this poll: the top election issue for Canadian Boomers was “Donald Trump,” while “Making Canada a better place to live” and “Reducing your cost of living” were among the lowest.
For voters aged 18 to 29, predictably, it was the opposite. Hardly anyone said they cared about “Dealing with Donald Trump,” and “Reducing your cost of living” was the top concern by a wide margin.
Pierre “Carbon Tax Election” Poilievre isn’t blameless either. He lost his own riding and ran a poor campaign. The single most important issue—housing prices driven by supply constraints and mass immigration—was treated as secondary. He chose to run on the carbon tax, which became a non-issue the moment the Liberals claimed to scrap it from their agenda. Worse, Poilievre only released his immigration plan two days before the election.
I'd like to add that a lot had to do with getting rid of Trudeau. Carney seems way more competent, so people who found Poilievre unappealing stayed with the Liberals.
Canada is reaping the harvest of their great replacement strategy. If you’re a liberal globalist Canadian, that strategy is working perfectly.
It is also why you have to be a moron to want Canada as the 51st state. The resources are nice, but the demographics are nightmare.
As far as tactical distractions, annexation of Canada and purchase of Greenland work just fine. Art of the deal 101.
By the way, if the reason Canada voted liberal again was really all a reaction to Trump’s bluster, then our Canadian friends just got served a double portion of what they ordered.
My advice to team Trump: Carney is your enemy in all things, act accordingly.
I’m glad he’s doing what he’s doing but I’m with you. Put your thinking hat on and look at the long game. I have a lot of Canadian friends who took offensive and they are from conservative Alberta.
So they responded by voting for people who hate them and want to replace them with Indians? The whole attitude of letting Trump influence the election is pathetic. The Canadian Jeb Bush lost, I don't care.
What makes you think the Conservatives had a better platform? They sounded pretty conventional to me.
I doubt they had a better platform. I am responding to a comment and a column implying that a critical number of their voters were so offended by what the leader of a foreign country said they voted to continue the destruction of Canada rather than change course even slightly. Maybe a significant number are refusing to vote entirely because the conservative party is too far left for them, but that isn't what is being reported.
They were not great, but at least they said that they would not follow the Century Initiative which is a private initiative to increase our population to 100 million by the end of the century.
From the CIC
The Conservative Party’s election platform rejects the Century Initiative’s plan to drastically grow Toronto to a city of 33.5 million, Montreal to a city of 12.2 million, Vancouver to a city of 11.9 million, Calgary-Edmonton to cities of 15.5 million, and Ottawa-Gatineau to a city of 4.8 million within a single lifetime.
Also
167. Birthright Citizenship
We encourage the government to enact legislation which will fully eliminate birthright citizenship in Canada unless one of the parents of the child born in Canada is a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
OK, tepid and lukewarm, but better than the Liberals.
Canada will do what it will. The Albertans were disappointed that their voter, very conservative seemed to be negated by Trump’s rhetoric. They might just ask for asylum and move to Texas.
Is there nothing for which Trump cannot be blamed?! Fuck the stupid ass Canadians who are voting for their own destruction.
I don't expect that the Liberal minority government will last four years as it is not in the interest of any of the opposition parties to support a minority Liberal government. When the time is right, the Liberal government will be executed. As much as I think Trump has mis-managed Canadian affairs, I hope he sticks it to the Liberals. The Liberals are the enemies of the right and should be politically damaged as much as possible. I hope for Prime Minister Carney to be on his knees like the American president in Superman II (who oddly looked a lot like Howard Baker).
I don’t like the Liberals either. I’m very disappointed.
At what point does the moronic outweigh any possible positive outcomes? The own goals are staggering https://youtu.be/6v9tF6Mbo5I?si=xqrZ9gkIA-jcU3dw
My wife is Canadian, and both her, and her family in Toronto and Montreal, are livid about Trump's 51st state rhetoric.
They were broadly sympathetic to Trump right after the election, but the trade war and wild talk about becoming another U.S. state has sent them over the edge.
I know most Americans could care less about Canada, but Canada is an important trading partner, and both countries have had very friendly relations for many decades, so I admit to being flummoxed by Trump's strategy, or lack thereof.
He had to know it would be wildly offensive to Canadians, and I don't see how it benefits the U.S. in any way... so why needlessly aggravate such a close ally?
SUFFAH.
A system of government where the PM cheered on the arson of churches because of an idiotic understanding of ground radar is beyond fixing with elections. The Canadian people have shown repeatedly they don't have the will to defend themselves from their tyrannical elite. I don't care what offends them.
Poilievre was not going to improve things. He was sounding rather like a Liberal.
Right; Canada is just as binary as the U.S. with really two dominant parties, even though you have to form a "coalition government". So it really boiled down to Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum for election choices; both candidates in thrall to big money donors. You currently have no maverick style political leader willing to take risks and revise the rules of the domestic game.
Yeah I got the impression the Canacons are like the Republicans pre-Trump. I personally rather like Canadians, and my daughter is currently a student at UBC, but Ottawa is completely wrecking the country with no signs of slowing down.
Canada, what with all the new "Canadians" is starting to become a liability that's looking like a problem we're eventually going to have to deal with at great expense, like Mexico. I go up to visit my daughter, stop to pick up some stuff for her in Richmond, and it feels like I'm back in Hong Kong.
Exactly, he was not Stephen Harper, and offered no viable alternative.
How much did the Canadian media make it look like a threat instead of an offer? I can guess.
We all know what he said and it’s a completely ridiculous idea. I’m turned right off Trump now.
Because he is a child. He is right on immigration and other matters, but he really does have a serious personality disorder.
To give credit where it is due, Trudeau played Trump's teasing remarks perfectly by resigning and forcing an election shortly afterwards.
Canada's freeloading country that gets to sit there sheltered by the United States of America. If they want to vote for leftist tyrants that is their business.
Why needlessly freeload on an ally?? Canada has treated the United States manufacturers horriblely. I reject any sort of hurt stance.
Please.
Can't disagree, but Trump is, and always has been, a package deal. Since surviving the 2 assassination attempts, that deal is on amphetamines. Gotta look for the silver linings, or you'll go crazy over the next 4 years. I remember every summer, the low-life carnival would come to town when I was a kid. The thought that Trump has somehow made it seem necessary for the Canadian Boomers to elect a Carney as their PM is kind of a hoot. Norm Macdonald, thou shouldest be living at this hour! Plus, I enjoy spending time in Nova Scotia and PEI in early fall (i.e., after black fly season). Carney will have the Canadian Loonie down to 50 (US) cents by then.
There Are No Silver Linings. None.
I get the sentiment but “playing nice” is how we got here in the first place. Nobody knows if the conservative would have won regardless of what Trump did. And would he have been materially different from Carnivalbarker? History suggests not. So if Canadians want to have Trump tell them how to vote, more power to them I suppose. Better luck next time Canada! Hope you survive long enough for a next time.
When you elect a horse's ass as your president, you are going to have to accept the bad with the good. Hopefully there will be fewer own-goals going forward, because this was a bad one
Yes, Trump was pretty stupid in his unnecessary bating of the Canadians and trying to start a trade war with a country that he himself negotiated an updated trade deal with only six years ago. If I was Canadian I’d be pissed off too.
Let’s repeat this Donnie, the only bilateral trade relationship that matters is “Chyna!” Keeping good relationships with our allies is kind of important!
Brezhnen, We Have No Allies. None.
I disagree.
You can disagree all you want, The Physical Results in Physical Reality Prove Me Right.
What did you just say?
You know what I said. Stop being obtuse on purpose just to loop logic and hunt for a Gotcha to Win The Internet Argument.
We Have No Allies. None. Every country on Earth hates America and wants all White Americans to die.
Wait, what? Are you trolling? Poilievre’s campaign was terrible. The only hope he had was engaging with some rationality on tariffs, which Canada has been screwing the USA on for years. Even then, that was a long shot. Instead, he chose to put no space between himself and Carney, a straight from central-casting “technocrat” who will proceed to fly Canada into a mountainside. Trump is working to serve the USA. It only feels weird because no President has been committed to that since Kennedy or Eisenhower.
People need to accept that Canada is controlled by leftist boomers who are invested in house prices, government workers (about 25% of voters) and immigrants (Canada’s foreign-born population is enormous — 25+% of voters). Very soon to be the latter two. Canada is doomed by the takers outnumbering the makers.
Worth noting, Canada has more Sikh members of Parliament than India, with a smaller Parliament.
Several Indians have been appointed by Trump. JD Vance’s wife is an Indian.
Yes, Canada is doomed if it maintains its current course, and how does alienating millions of conservative leaning Canadians who were impressed with Trump help anyone?
Trump should be exclusively focused on helping the U.S., and offending our enemies and near enemies would be quite welcome, but spitting in the eye of our next door neighbor and trading partner borders on the ridiculous.
Trump can negotiate more favorable trade deals with close allies without vomiting in their laps.
Alberta might secede. They just made it easier.
edit: https://x.com/SheilaGunnReid/status/1917332552215584938
Young people voted based on the economy and housing. Older people voted against Trump.
Conservatives were fairly popular with the young vote despite a bad campaign.
And just like here, those Boomer Progressives will be signing up for the bye bye needle soon.
Patriotic Canadians and Canadian nationalists have always been anti-American. The decline of Britain and the lure of economic gains made Canadian business interests more amenable to the US over the past several decades, but Trump has alienated this aspect with his tariffs and threats.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/robert-fulford-remembering-canadas-golden-era-of-anti-americanism
"In 1970, Creighton wrote “Canada’s First Century,” another eulogy like Grant’s. In the current issue of “The Dorchester Review,” Donald Wright of the University of New Brunswick summarizes Creighton’s view in that book: Canada, a noble project, “collapsed beneath the weight of American power, British weakness, and its own venal Liberal prime ministers.”
Creighton hated the Americans but, like Grant, hated Liberals even more. He believed that the survival of Canada as a separate nation depended on a “united front by Great Britain and the whole of British North America against the United States.” Creighton thought it would have been better if the Confederacy had won the Civil War; that would have made the United States less dangerous."
Brock remains a popular boy’s name, after Sir Isaac Brock, the hero of the War of 1812 against the Americans.
Trump should have been specific about what to do with most of the eastern and west coast Canadians. They might not like El Salvador, but Venezuela and Cuba ought to suit them. I gather some have vacationed there for decades.
So 8D Trumpism is that he is pushing Canada to kneejerk embrace Socialism so the USA can poach Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba who do not want to be party to Socialist Canada.
Best I got.
I think Trump has blown it.
He will lose the House and we will spend the last two years of his term listening to clowns like Adam Schiff prattle on endlessly about the end of democracy.
Opportunity lost.
From a comment I saw elsewhere:
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How could a rational electorate entrust governance once again to a party under whose leadership the country experienced negative GDP per capita growth, record-breaking increases in housing and rental prices due to artificially constrained supply, and unprecedented levels of mass immigration—much of it skewed toward lower-wage or lower-skilled labor? Only Sudan has had a higher rate of population growth than Canada, yet Canada has built hardly any new housing relative to that growth.
There was very little substantive discussion of housing policy throughout the debates. Shockingly, immigration wasn’t even a topic in any of the televised English-language debates. Only the Quebec debates addressed it, and even then it was all generalities and banalities—nothing specific. No one wants to talk about the formation of ethnic enclaves where English is rarely spoken. Much like the rest of the Anglosphere, the discourse is besotted with political correctness and self-censorship.
There should be rightful anger and disgust directed at Donald Trump—but not at the expense of holding the Liberal government accountable for a decade of mismanagement.
The Canadian election feels like an MSNBC-watching American voter in the Bay Area voting against Trump while surrounded by homeless encampments, legalized drug use, constant property crime, car break-ins, and unaffordable rents—yet still obsessing over Trump and voting Democrat due to TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), rather than judging the liberal governance around them.
Canadian Boomers put their TDS ahead of improving Canada. They effectively sold out their country in the name of Trump hatred.
Look at this poll: the top election issue for Canadian Boomers was “Donald Trump,” while “Making Canada a better place to live” and “Reducing your cost of living” were among the lowest.
For voters aged 18 to 29, predictably, it was the opposite. Hardly anyone said they cared about “Dealing with Donald Trump,” and “Reducing your cost of living” was the top concern by a wide margin.
Pierre “Carbon Tax Election” Poilievre isn’t blameless either. He lost his own riding and ran a poor campaign. The single most important issue—housing prices driven by supply constraints and mass immigration—was treated as secondary. He chose to run on the carbon tax, which became a non-issue the moment the Liberals claimed to scrap it from their agenda. Worse, Poilievre only released his immigration plan two days before the election.
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I'd like to add that a lot had to do with getting rid of Trudeau. Carney seems way more competent, so people who found Poilievre unappealing stayed with the Liberals.
This shouldn't be how people think, but it is.
Canada is reaping the harvest of their great replacement strategy. If you’re a liberal globalist Canadian, that strategy is working perfectly.
It is also why you have to be a moron to want Canada as the 51st state. The resources are nice, but the demographics are nightmare.
As far as tactical distractions, annexation of Canada and purchase of Greenland work just fine. Art of the deal 101.
By the way, if the reason Canada voted liberal again was really all a reaction to Trump’s bluster, then our Canadian friends just got served a double portion of what they ordered.
My advice to team Trump: Carney is your enemy in all things, act accordingly.
Good.
Now break up the vote according age cohort.