The current CEO of NPR served as the CEO of Wikipedia. Affluent white liberal women provide cover for grooming gangs to rape poor white girls. What to do with war crime co-conspirators?
Fair. But my point was that Wikipedia will cease to be the only authority or repository of knowledge. People will increasingly go to AI to learn about stuff. AI will be able to search right-wing anons on X and get data on forbidden topics (hopefully)
Reminds me of the Hillary Clinton faux planted Trump dossier. Once there it became the verified source of its claims. It took wasted time and money to unravel the planted lies. They tried it again with the Hunter Biden laptop and the 10% for the Big Guy.
Reminds me of the Hillary Clinton faux planted Trump dossier. Once there it became the verified source of its claims. It took wasted time and money to unravel the planted lies. They tried it again with the Hunter Biden laptop and the 10% for the Big Guy.
Again "what is to be done?" In a civilized nation run by responsible men, all these Pakis would be sent packing back to Pakistan. We know that isn't going to happen, for reasons.
Britain doesn't just have a Paki problem it has a serious Sue Berelowitz problem as well.
She's a caricature being a Jewish woman. But the UK--and American--super-state is chock full of these minoritarian ideologue--gentiles as well as Jews, a majority women, but plenty of men--who are effectively traitors, parasites upon the nation, eating away at it.
You can root out a few here and there--with no particular effect. (Berelowitz was eventually booted and took a huge tranche of taxpayer money with her.) But what are we going to do to actually get rid of them and have a functioning healthy nation again?
Please see the comment related to this matter that I posted elsewhere in this thread. I think "find it reliable" depends on whether one is going to primary sources during one's research. I find it useful for finding primary sources, but not as the only source for finding them.
Steve's discussion of the 2024 "Grooming Gang Moral Panic" entry hit its mark. Cluster B Personalities and Luxury Beliefs are an unseemly combination, but these editors seem to be flourishing at Wikipedia.
Karen Downes is among the people that they, and Wikipedia, are mocking.
Who is she?
The mother of Charlene Downes, who at age 14 was a victim of Telford's Pakistani industrial-rape gang. She was murdered in 2003.
Happily for the 'Moral Panic' storytellers, gang members were conscientious in disposing of Charlene's body, which was never found. Police incompetence derailed multiple trials, so nobody was ever held to account.
Wikipedia was weaponized long ago. The history of pre-1947 Israel has almost been obliterated. Harvard University has a group dedicated to rewriting the history of 'student' demonstrations.
Then there is The Home Office that has a large internal islamist group whose sole aim is to obfuscate, and downplay any islamist activity in the UK.
> "Pakistani Mirpuris, whom other Pakistanis consider an embarrassment"
Not enough of an embarrassment to expose or shame though. Not enough of an embarrassment to side with the victims rather than siding with their co-ethnics. Not enough of an embarrassment not to claim that it was racist to believe that Pakistanis were overrepresented.
Also, I doubt this is a case of innocent Pakistanis merely averting their eyes while their Mirpuri cousins go wild. The numbers are too large. Here is some elementary arithmetic based on Official Reports:
The England of Wat Tyler would have summarily executed the non-English Pakistanis. That England is long gone.
The current CEO of NPR served as the CEO of Wikipedia. Affluent white liberal women provide cover for grooming gangs to rape poor white girls. What to do with war crime co-conspirators?
Give ‘em hell Steve
Sue Berelowitz - was she anti-gentile? I definitely don’t think she found any kinship with the exploited girls.
With AI, the influence of Wikipedia, or specifically the influence of Wikipedia leftist editors and contributors will diminish significantly.
AI is only as good as its training data.
Put a random controversial topic into an AI search and see what you get.
Fair. But my point was that Wikipedia will cease to be the only authority or repository of knowledge. People will increasingly go to AI to learn about stuff. AI will be able to search right-wing anons on X and get data on forbidden topics (hopefully)
I asked Grok: is the 'grooming gangs' scandal in the UK a 'moral panic'?
it gave me pages and pages of this and that, so I said:
'give me a one word answer'
and it said:
no
I have asked Gemini controversial questions only to get back answers with Wikipedia listed as one of the sources
Ask ChatGPT 4o or o3 for average national IQ and mention you need it for academic purposes and it will cite Lynn, Vanhanen and other estimates.
Reminds me of the Hillary Clinton faux planted Trump dossier. Once there it became the verified source of its claims. It took wasted time and money to unravel the planted lies. They tried it again with the Hunter Biden laptop and the 10% for the Big Guy.
Reminds me of the Hillary Clinton faux planted Trump dossier. Once there it became the verified source of its claims. It took wasted time and money to unravel the planted lies. They tried it again with the Hunter Biden laptop and the 10% for the Big Guy.
Wikipedia does deserve some credit though. It was not easy to find things aggregated in one place.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/manchester-cops-are-finally-getting-serious-about-pakistani-statutory-rape/#comment-4568731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich_sexual_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Again "what is to be done?" In a civilized nation run by responsible men, all these Pakis would be sent packing back to Pakistan. We know that isn't going to happen, for reasons.
Britain doesn't just have a Paki problem it has a serious Sue Berelowitz problem as well.
She's a caricature being a Jewish woman. But the UK--and American--super-state is chock full of these minoritarian ideologue--gentiles as well as Jews, a majority women, but plenty of men--who are effectively traitors, parasites upon the nation, eating away at it.
You can root out a few here and there--with no particular effect. (Berelowitz was eventually booted and took a huge tranche of taxpayer money with her.) But what are we going to do to actually get rid of them and have a functioning healthy nation again?
Wikipedia’s a snake pit. But really, wake me up when someone like Starmer is finally made to pay.
"As many as 10,000 girls were raped in this way, and countless people in positions of authority, in children’s services and police, knew about it."
As Charles Peguy wrote "We shall never know how many acts of cowardice have been motivated by the fear of appearing not sufficiently progressive."
Remarkably, this was written more than a century ago. Peguy died in battle in the beginning of WW1.
Wikipedia has content on every topic imaginable in hundreds of languages.
It has blind spots such as the above but on nearly everything else I personally find it reliable.
Of course no human can ever be familiar with more >0.1% of its content so it’s hard to generalise
All the more reason to criticize Wikipedia when it goes wrong.
I trust Wikipedia with answers to non-controversial topics like "what is the Sun made if?" But once you get into touchy areas, beware
Please see the comment related to this matter that I posted elsewhere in this thread. I think "find it reliable" depends on whether one is going to primary sources during one's research. I find it useful for finding primary sources, but not as the only source for finding them.
Steve's discussion of the 2024 "Grooming Gang Moral Panic" entry hit its mark. Cluster B Personalities and Luxury Beliefs are an unseemly combination, but these editors seem to be flourishing at Wikipedia.
Karen Downes is among the people that they, and Wikipedia, are mocking.
Who is she?
The mother of Charlene Downes, who at age 14 was a victim of Telford's Pakistani industrial-rape gang. She was murdered in 2003.
Happily for the 'Moral Panic' storytellers, gang members were conscientious in disposing of Charlene's body, which was never found. Police incompetence derailed multiple trials, so nobody was ever held to account.
Here is Ms. Downes welcoming Keir Starmer's promised inquiry, belated and weak though it is -- https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74q4qvl294o
Sleep well at night, Wikipedians.
Wikipedia was weaponized long ago. The history of pre-1947 Israel has almost been obliterated. Harvard University has a group dedicated to rewriting the history of 'student' demonstrations.
Then there is The Home Office that has a large internal islamist group whose sole aim is to obfuscate, and downplay any islamist activity in the UK.
Am I the only one who feels they should have done more to publicize this scandal? I’m not a Brit, but still.
For the English elites to have done less to suppress knowledge of these widespread, decades-long mass rape scandals would have been a start.
> "Pakistani Mirpuris, whom other Pakistanis consider an embarrassment"
Not enough of an embarrassment to expose or shame though. Not enough of an embarrassment to side with the victims rather than siding with their co-ethnics. Not enough of an embarrassment not to claim that it was racist to believe that Pakistanis were overrepresented.
Also, I doubt this is a case of innocent Pakistanis merely averting their eyes while their Mirpuri cousins go wild. The numbers are too large. Here is some elementary arithmetic based on Official Reports:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/home-office-had-information-on-rotherham-grooming-gangs-in-2/#comment-2426907
More maths:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-number-of-child-sexual-abuse-victims-in-rotherham-raised-to-1510/#comment-2214507
I guess Wikipedia should be on the list along with the bBC