Re the "cycles" mentioned in the piece, I would think the 2023-2024 cycle would be the George Floyd-focused one rather than (today's/tomorrow's) 2025-2027 cycle, as stated. Could you please explain?
"For clarity, references in this report to the 2023–2027 admissions cycles correspond to students who matriculated into the USNA Classes of 2023 through 2027. Since candidates apply nearly a year before matriculating, these admission cycles roughly align with applications submitted between 2018 and 2022. For example, an applicant who applied in 2018 and was accepted would have matriculated into the Class of 2023, while an applicant who applied in 2022 would belong to the Class of 2027. This distinction is important when interpreting data throughout the report."
The British Army famously does not have a royal warrant due to its association with Cromwell and the English Civil War.
A friend was heavily involved in USAF Academy recruiting for many years. He states that academically ineligible candidates (almost entirely athletes) pass the USAFA prep school at rates approaching 100%. The Air Force is pretty technical as well.
Slightly OT: The NY Post and the Daily Mail are reporting that the black helicopter pilot in the recent crash was a SEAL.
I’m betting he was perhaps administratively attached to a SEAL unit, but didn’t pass BUDS school himself.
I’m also betting he’s responsible for the crash.
Just as Steve has Sailer’s Law of Mass shootings, I’ll offer my JMcG’s rules for flying as a passenger:
1. Do NOT fly on third world airlines.
2. Unless in a stretcher, do NOT fly in helicopters.
3. Do NOT fly on airlines flagged in former republics of the USSR.
4. Do NOT fly in an aircraft piloted by blacks.
5. For the time being, avoid United Airlines. They have placed a very high priority on diversity in hiring aircrew. They plan on making 50% of their new pilots women or people of color. That policy was instituted in 2021 and is still in effect.
Oh, this is real... and it's been going on for a while. We live near Annapolis and sponsored two minority mids a little over ten years ago. I don't recall how it came up in conversation, but I remember being startled one of their SATs being around 1100. I'd spent my whole life thinking you had to be Harvard material to get in. My oldest son graduated high school in 2022, and one of his black classmates got in with an SAT in the 1100s. Not recruited as an athlete, either.
And... my youngest goes to a military school in Virginia which he is graduating from this year. In last year's class, a white male with a 4.2 GPA, 1450 SAT and lots of extracurriculars was waitlisted at... wait for it... Navy.
On the plus side, I love living near Annapolis and watching the Blue Angels every May :)
Another observation I'm not hearing much about: I think the academies just aren't getting the best anymore, anyway. With so many schools doling out free money nowadays, why sign over your life for four years after graduation anymore?
If "An Officer and a Gentleman" and "Top Gun" taught me anything it's because "I wanna fly jets!"
The prestige of the military rises and falls with the sensibilities of the era, but for some kids it sounds amazing. And there can be real luck in going in when it's unpopular. All those top admirals in the photo, all the four star admirals of WWII, entered the academy when it had little prestige and spent a lot of their careers in an underfunded military.
You sign up to give someone at the Academy a home to stay at on the weekends if they like. We took ours out to dinner a lot; we had two young boys at the time, so they thought it was really neat to hang out with someone at the Academy. The really loved playing football with someone on an actual college team.
Wellington was Irish, so not even the greatest British general of the era was of the English majority. Seem to remember reading a fair number of the more effective higher level officers were Scottish or Irish as well.
Obviously our military academies should not engage in affirmative action, the potential stakes are far too high. I do wonder at what career paths black Annapolis grads tend to follow, especially if there is a bias to “in the rear with the gear” seen in the Army and Marines.
At any rate, it’s depressing to recognize that the insanity around DEI was pervasive enough to penetrate what everyone assumes to be very clear eyed institutions like the service academies. Really adds credence to the Toynbee quote about civilizations dying by suicide rather than murder.
Like Jonathan Swift and George Bernard Shaw, Arthur Wellesley was of English Protestant stock, not Irish Catholic stock. Calling him Irish is like calling George Washington an American Indian.
When I was resident one of the attendings was a brilliant Greek fellow who told hilarious tales of incompetence during his required time in the Greek navy. One story (which I didn't quite understand from a tech point of view) involved an officer barely stopping an artillery fire demo in time when he somehow intuited the wrong (or was it any) grease was applied to the shell. Attending claimed it would have killed at least the guy firing it.
One smart experienced officer can counteract a lot of stupidity,
Agreed. I believe the point here is competent Officers are being programmatically pushed out of the Officer Corps in the Military, which doesn't seem to lead to good outcomes. Best regards.
"Navy Heisman winner Roger Staubach might be a worthy rival to Tom Brady for the greatest quarterback of all time if he didn’t spend age 22-26 in Da Nang."
Roger Staubach would be on my list of top 5 Americans of the 20th century, but my top 5 is a moving target.
Roger Staubach:
- Heisman Trophy winner
- Navy officer, volunteered for service in Da Nang, Vietnam 1965 - 1967
- 2 Time Super Bowl winner
- Post NFL career, founded successful commercial real estate company, because as he said, "I couldn't have retired at my age and just played golf. First of all, they didn't pay quarterbacks what they do today. And I was 37 with three kids. I kept thinking about [what would happen] if some linebacker takes off my head and I can't play anymore."; then sold it for +$600 million
- Married his sweetheart in 1965 and will celebrate their 50th anniversary in September
- Fathered 5 kids and now has 15 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren.
Staubach worked I believe one year of broadcasting where he made fun of Jimmy Carter's debate reference of asking Amy Carter, age 12, for advice on nuclear weapon control. The lefties at CBS didn't like that and Staubach was not retained as an announcer. Good for him.
To bring up an old stereotype, it could be that blacks succeed in the Army because (like Southern whites) they like to shoot guns and blow things up, while the Navy seems a stretch because blacks don't like being in or around water.
I don’t think Staubach qualified for the Naval Academy coming out of high school. He spent a year at New Mexico Military Institute (NMMI, which is both a high school and junior college) in Roswell before “shipping off” to Annapolis.
It's amazing how smarts is better for almost everything. A child would assume that strength and aggression are the primary factors in military success. Turns out a smarter country is better at fighting, push comes to shove.
I think subconsciously we are just tired of being the global hegemon.
Old Pentagon saying: Army dumb, Air Force devious, Navy defiant.
Good luck, Pete Hegseth, getting them to change much. It can't help the quality of white officers when they know they'll be disfavored their whole careers.
I read the TV profits from football pay for most of the other sports.
The military academies are morally corrupt leftist institutions. They need to be reformed. And the academies' sports teams need to be downsized and compete only with similar universities that put academics way above sports. The academies should compete against each other, VMI and The Citadel and smaller schools like Lehigh and Bucknell.
"That’s presumably why the Naval Academy is biased toward Asians over whites, in contrast to Harvard."
You also have to factor in that USNA is only accepting applications from the population of Asian-Americans, and not the population of all Asians around the world, like Harvard is. You have to be a US citizen by 1 July of the year of entry. This presumably lowers the competitiveness for Asian applicants and means that USNA and the other Service Academies wouldn't be flooded with Asians if they didn't discriminate, the way Harvard would.
I believe International students were not included in the numbers for the racial bias cases, but they're significant proportions at some schools like NWU and Georgetown. They don't seem to satisfy the Diversity Faithful. USNA used to have a small number from foreign navies.
Zach Goldberg in 2019 penned an Article 'Americas White Saviors' where he cited a study showing a large fraction of America's white liberals hate themselves and (I guess)their children too.
"Remarkably, white liberals were the only subgroup exhibiting a pro-outgroup bias—meaning white liberals were more favorable toward nonwhites and are the only group to show this preference for a group other than their own. Indeed, on average, white liberals rated ethnic and racial minority groups 13 points (or half a standard deviation) warmer than whites. As is depicted in the graph below, this disparity in feelings of warmth toward ingroup vs. outgroup is even more pronounced among whites who consider themselves “very liberal” where it widens to just under 20 points. Notably, while white liberals have consistently evinced weaker pro-ingroup biases than conservatives across time, the emergence and growth of a pro-outgroup bias is actually a very recent, and unprecedented, phenomenon."
Last I saw, the GoFundMe for the black kid who stabbed the white kid to death at a track meet in Texas is over 400k. It would be interesting to see who is contributing.
Yes, exactly. He sat in the other team’s tent to provoke a reaction. With a knife. I wonder how long GoFundMe would have allowed a fund raiser for George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse.
Also it is always interesting to note that Nimitz was from Fredricksberg near Austin, Texas. A desert like place that celebrates its Germ*n heritage, with no ocean in sight. Denied admission to the USMA he went to Annapolis...and the rest is history.
Re the "cycles" mentioned in the piece, I would think the 2023-2024 cycle would be the George Floyd-focused one rather than (today's/tomorrow's) 2025-2027 cycle, as stated. Could you please explain?
"For clarity, references in this report to the 2023–2027 admissions cycles correspond to students who matriculated into the USNA Classes of 2023 through 2027. Since candidates apply nearly a year before matriculating, these admission cycles roughly align with applications submitted between 2018 and 2022. For example, an applicant who applied in 2018 and was accepted would have matriculated into the Class of 2023, while an applicant who applied in 2022 would belong to the Class of 2027. This distinction is important when interpreting data throughout the report."
https://zachgoldberg.substack.com/p/after-harvard-the-fight-against-race
Thanks, Steve. I should've figured that out myself, but coffee was late this morning...
“I’d say so, but others may have more extremist opinions than a moderate like myself.”
In which direction are we talking?
The British Army famously does not have a royal warrant due to its association with Cromwell and the English Civil War.
A friend was heavily involved in USAF Academy recruiting for many years. He states that academically ineligible candidates (almost entirely athletes) pass the USAFA prep school at rates approaching 100%. The Air Force is pretty technical as well.
Slightly OT: The NY Post and the Daily Mail are reporting that the black helicopter pilot in the recent crash was a SEAL.
I’m betting he was perhaps administratively attached to a SEAL unit, but didn’t pass BUDS school himself.
I’m also betting he’s responsible for the crash.
Just as Steve has Sailer’s Law of Mass shootings, I’ll offer my JMcG’s rules for flying as a passenger:
1. Do NOT fly on third world airlines.
2. Unless in a stretcher, do NOT fly in helicopters.
3. Do NOT fly on airlines flagged in former republics of the USSR.
4. Do NOT fly in an aircraft piloted by blacks.
5. For the time being, avoid United Airlines. They have placed a very high priority on diversity in hiring aircrew. They plan on making 50% of their new pilots women or people of color. That policy was instituted in 2021 and is still in effect.
great. I'm flying soon :( I hate flying.
Oh, this is real... and it's been going on for a while. We live near Annapolis and sponsored two minority mids a little over ten years ago. I don't recall how it came up in conversation, but I remember being startled one of their SATs being around 1100. I'd spent my whole life thinking you had to be Harvard material to get in. My oldest son graduated high school in 2022, and one of his black classmates got in with an SAT in the 1100s. Not recruited as an athlete, either.
And... my youngest goes to a military school in Virginia which he is graduating from this year. In last year's class, a white male with a 4.2 GPA, 1450 SAT and lots of extracurriculars was waitlisted at... wait for it... Navy.
On the plus side, I love living near Annapolis and watching the Blue Angels every May :)
Another observation I'm not hearing much about: I think the academies just aren't getting the best anymore, anyway. With so many schools doling out free money nowadays, why sign over your life for four years after graduation anymore?
If "An Officer and a Gentleman" and "Top Gun" taught me anything it's because "I wanna fly jets!"
The prestige of the military rises and falls with the sensibilities of the era, but for some kids it sounds amazing. And there can be real luck in going in when it's unpopular. All those top admirals in the photo, all the four star admirals of WWII, entered the academy when it had little prestige and spent a lot of their careers in an underfunded military.
What does sponsoring entail?
You sign up to give someone at the Academy a home to stay at on the weekends if they like. We took ours out to dinner a lot; we had two young boys at the time, so they thought it was really neat to hang out with someone at the Academy. The really loved playing football with someone on an actual college team.
That’s nice of you. Was it race based or could you sponsor anyone?
Wellington was Irish, so not even the greatest British general of the era was of the English majority. Seem to remember reading a fair number of the more effective higher level officers were Scottish or Irish as well.
Obviously our military academies should not engage in affirmative action, the potential stakes are far too high. I do wonder at what career paths black Annapolis grads tend to follow, especially if there is a bias to “in the rear with the gear” seen in the Army and Marines.
At any rate, it’s depressing to recognize that the insanity around DEI was pervasive enough to penetrate what everyone assumes to be very clear eyed institutions like the service academies. Really adds credence to the Toynbee quote about civilizations dying by suicide rather than murder.
Like Jonathan Swift and George Bernard Shaw, Arthur Wellesley was of English Protestant stock, not Irish Catholic stock. Calling him Irish is like calling George Washington an American Indian.
same with Wolfe Tone and Napper Tandy
Napper Tandy? Anyone up for a rousing rendition of "Boat Train," by the Pogues?
"I met with Napper Tandy and I shook him by the hand
Said, "Hold me up, for Christ sake, for I can hardly stand"
The most disgraceful journey on which I've ever been
The last time that I traveled on the boat train"
"To be born in a stable..."
George was a Native American though!
I think that like with the House of Representatives, it is a good idea to have quotas in the military and law enforcement.
The decline in Officer performance is real. The recent shoot down of an F-18 on final to USS Truman by USS Gettysburg is not an isolated incident.
When I was resident one of the attendings was a brilliant Greek fellow who told hilarious tales of incompetence during his required time in the Greek navy. One story (which I didn't quite understand from a tech point of view) involved an officer barely stopping an artillery fire demo in time when he somehow intuited the wrong (or was it any) grease was applied to the shell. Attending claimed it would have killed at least the guy firing it.
One smart experienced officer can counteract a lot of stupidity,
Agreed. I believe the point here is competent Officers are being programmatically pushed out of the Officer Corps in the Military, which doesn't seem to lead to good outcomes. Best regards.
"Navy Heisman winner Roger Staubach might be a worthy rival to Tom Brady for the greatest quarterback of all time if he didn’t spend age 22-26 in Da Nang."
Roger Staubach would be on my list of top 5 Americans of the 20th century, but my top 5 is a moving target.
Roger Staubach:
- Heisman Trophy winner
- Navy officer, volunteered for service in Da Nang, Vietnam 1965 - 1967
- 2 Time Super Bowl winner
- Post NFL career, founded successful commercial real estate company, because as he said, "I couldn't have retired at my age and just played golf. First of all, they didn't pay quarterbacks what they do today. And I was 37 with three kids. I kept thinking about [what would happen] if some linebacker takes off my head and I can't play anymore."; then sold it for +$600 million
- Married his sweetheart in 1965 and will celebrate their 50th anniversary in September
- Fathered 5 kids and now has 15 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren.
All in all a great American.
Others on my Top 5 list:
Stan Musial
James J. Braddock
John Basilone
Staubach is a great man. And I was a Redskin fan growing up, hoping Pat Fischer or Chris Hanburger would take off his head.
Staubach worked I believe one year of broadcasting where he made fun of Jimmy Carter's debate reference of asking Amy Carter, age 12, for advice on nuclear weapon control. The lefties at CBS didn't like that and Staubach was not retained as an announcer. Good for him.
Eddie Rickenbacker is #1 by a mile
To bring up an old stereotype, it could be that blacks succeed in the Army because (like Southern whites) they like to shoot guns and blow things up, while the Navy seems a stretch because blacks don't like being in or around water.
Blacks don’t succeed in the army. They are “succeeded” by the army.
I don’t think Staubach qualified for the Naval Academy coming out of high school. He spent a year at New Mexico Military Institute (NMMI, which is both a high school and junior college) in Roswell before “shipping off” to Annapolis.
It's amazing how smarts is better for almost everything. A child would assume that strength and aggression are the primary factors in military success. Turns out a smarter country is better at fighting, push comes to shove.
I think subconsciously we are just tired of being the global hegemon.
Napoleon said that the moral is to the physical as three to one.
Morale?
Old Pentagon saying: Army dumb, Air Force devious, Navy defiant.
Good luck, Pete Hegseth, getting them to change much. It can't help the quality of white officers when they know they'll be disfavored their whole careers.
I read the TV profits from football pay for most of the other sports.
The military academies are morally corrupt leftist institutions. They need to be reformed. And the academies' sports teams need to be downsized and compete only with similar universities that put academics way above sports. The academies should compete against each other, VMI and The Citadel and smaller schools like Lehigh and Bucknell.
"That’s presumably why the Naval Academy is biased toward Asians over whites, in contrast to Harvard."
You also have to factor in that USNA is only accepting applications from the population of Asian-Americans, and not the population of all Asians around the world, like Harvard is. You have to be a US citizen by 1 July of the year of entry. This presumably lowers the competitiveness for Asian applicants and means that USNA and the other Service Academies wouldn't be flooded with Asians if they didn't discriminate, the way Harvard would.
I believe International students were not included in the numbers for the racial bias cases, but they're significant proportions at some schools like NWU and Georgetown. They don't seem to satisfy the Diversity Faithful. USNA used to have a small number from foreign navies.
Zach Goldberg in 2019 penned an Article 'Americas White Saviors' where he cited a study showing a large fraction of America's white liberals hate themselves and (I guess)their children too.
"Remarkably, white liberals were the only subgroup exhibiting a pro-outgroup bias—meaning white liberals were more favorable toward nonwhites and are the only group to show this preference for a group other than their own. Indeed, on average, white liberals rated ethnic and racial minority groups 13 points (or half a standard deviation) warmer than whites. As is depicted in the graph below, this disparity in feelings of warmth toward ingroup vs. outgroup is even more pronounced among whites who consider themselves “very liberal” where it widens to just under 20 points. Notably, while white liberals have consistently evinced weaker pro-ingroup biases than conservatives across time, the emergence and growth of a pro-outgroup bias is actually a very recent, and unprecedented, phenomenon."
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from here:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/americas-white-saviors
from Tablet magazine by Zach Goldberg, this article showed how much Leftists hate themselves.
Thanks for posting. It is true. White leftists hate themselves. That's one of the great differences between lefties and righties.
Last I saw, the GoFundMe for the black kid who stabbed the white kid to death at a track meet in Texas is over 400k. It would be interesting to see who is contributing.
This shocked me too. He brought a knife to a HS track meet. Who does this other then someone looking for trouble?
Yes, exactly. He sat in the other team’s tent to provoke a reaction. With a knife. I wonder how long GoFundMe would have allowed a fund raiser for George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse.
St. George and the after effects live on.
Imagine stabbing someone in the heart because they grabbed your arm and pushed you? Even a punch wouldn’t justify it.
The poor family. I bet the juvie will get off. I’m sure he has Ben Crump on it already.
Just checked and more money raised for the killer than the victim. WOW!!!
Also it is always interesting to note that Nimitz was from Fredricksberg near Austin, Texas. A desert like place that celebrates its Germ*n heritage, with no ocean in sight. Denied admission to the USMA he went to Annapolis...and the rest is history.