Although the Taki-Mag article of June 2013 did refer to the core of the matter, it did not include the word "Rotherham." There are no mentions of the word "Rotherham" by either you any blog-commenters, until the big story broke in late-August 2014.
The earliest use of the (related) phrase "grooming gangs" at the iSteve-blog was in June 2012, by Simon in London. Reposting here what he wrote at the time:
"[T]he Pakistani gangs preying on 15 year old white English underclass girls are routinely called paedophiles in the British media, whereas their attraction is clearly to exploitable post-pubescents who would be of marriageable age in traditional Pakistani culture. The Pakistanis clearly do not consider themselves pedophiles and show no sign of being attracted to pre-pubescents."
"It does make me angry, but primarily at the white ruling class who created this situation by destroying the white working class and importing alien and hostile cultures. The Pakistanis' behaviour remind me of the 'frog & the scorpion' tale – they are behaving 'naturally', according to their own lights – leaving aside possible murders reported by eg the BNP that have not made the mainstream media"
That June 2012 'Daily Mail' article featured the core of the later "Rotherham" story (i.e., "grooming gang"; i.e., anti-White sexual exploitation story). As of the mid-late 2000s, I believe the BNP was making it a central issue but no one else wanted to touch it.
The June 2012 Daily Mail story reads in part:
"Laura Wilson, 17, from Rotherham had been groomed for sex [since age 13] by a string of British Pakistani men..." and was murdered in 2010.
So we have the sotry, somewhere out there, in 2012: anti-White immigrant sex-crimes, and we have Rotherham, England. But it would take more than two more years to get more attention to a known problem, before anyone was willing to pull the trigger on an allegation of a large-scale RACIAL problem.
The authority that finally publicized it was someone against sex-crimes within the Town of Rotherham government. It was only their official report that gave cover to media-outlets willing to cover a (basically) known problem.
The 2014 report said the Muslim rape-gangs targeting vulnerable White girls had been active already by the late 1990s in a systematic way in the Town of Rotherham. It can't have been a tightly guarded secret for too long once it began. I suppose that when the BNP near its height in the 2000s began pushing the matter, that mainstream opinion treated the BNP as either insane fabricators or near-fabricators (i.e., taking a small thing, a few isolated cases, and inflating them to enormous scale unfairly), racial-demagogues who wanted Muslims out of Britain. But it's funny who turned out being right and who wrong.
One question that remains: Why 2014? Why not earlier, in 2004? Or 2009? Or later, in 2019?
The level of official delusion on the subject of Muslim immigration to various European countries is truly staggering. The only way to reverse it would be mass repatriation as well as significantly harsher criminal penalties, but just as in the US, the powers that be a) lack the guts and b) have enough institutional power to ignore what the people want.
The left in the West seems to think the passage of time inevitably results in a better society (ie, the arc of history is long but bends towards justice), but the chain of decisions made over the last 50 years means best case we will have highly fractured societies in which the historic peoples try to physically and culturally insulate themselves while upholding a system that gives the problematic arrivals significant political power. The only off-ramp is a serious and what would be viewed as barbaric/anti-liberal programme to alter the current demographic mix by expelling as many non-natives as possible. I doubt the will exists for this.
Sports Illustrated names Simone Biles its Sportsperson of the Year for 2024. This is a bit of a surprise as Time gave Caitlin Clark the same honor. Once upon a time they were sister publications so Time didn't give its own award but with the decimation of print media they are now under different ownership.
Clark definitely had the biggest impact on sports in 2024 but Biles had a better comeback story and has more Pokémon points, so Bob's your uncle.
Everything old is new again. This is why they raised the age of consent in the first place. Ironically I saw a report that the local cops were told to lay off if the 13 year old were voluntarily whores...just the excuse made in the above linked expose.
This was about the first big investigative journalism in a magazine ever.
Thanks - it's embarrassing that we have to air our dirty laundry in front of Americans to get anything done by our weak Establishment in Britain but thanks for taking our side, especially as you take little advantage from it. It's the greatest taboo in Britain at the moment, even moreso than Muslim terrorism.
"The explosive grooming story nearly didn't make the shortlist. Hall had already filmed several other stories through the children's department which she was unable to screen for legal reasons. "We weren't looking for this issue," she says. "It just kept surfacing. Social workers said, 'You can't do that story because it's too difficult.' What did they mean by 'too difficult'? Too racially sensitive?"
"The social workers she spoke to were appalled and frustrated, but also frightened of becoming targets of violence if they spoke out publicly, as were the mothers she spoke to. Hall decided to confront these difficulties and work with two mothers whose anonymity she promised to preserve.
"What emerges from these women's account, and from the testimony of two girls, one of them currently being groomed, is disturbing. Men from Bradford's Asian community, they claim, are targeting girls from 11 or 12 years up, taking them out in their cars, and giving them alcohol and gifts. The girls are flattered into believing that the men love them. Subsequently, they might be given heroin and crack cocaine and date-rape drugs, raped vaginally and anally, and in some cases, abducted and gang-raped.
Okay, but what will you accomplish? The world is fucked and white former-colonizing or enslaving peoples are screwing over their own poor to assuage the guilt of their ancestors. Bravo. We've understood this for a century.
Do you want a better life? A happier, freer, world? Or just the frustration of "being right" about local tribal injustices and errors done to "your team" -- even while "your team" spurns you?
Canada, Germany and the UK are well on their way to becoming countries that suppress free speech much like Russia, Iran and China. We in the US must acknowledge this fact and realize that we can no longer be allies with countries that don’t share our love of freedom.
I'm about say something horrible but we need to see reality.
I think maybe 15% of people in the US will utterly reject the truth of Rotherham because of Elon Musk. The combination of their personal hatred for him, deep brainwashing about "right-wing conspiracy theories", and their absolute certainty that racism is everything, everywhere ... it will not just be dismissed out of hand. The people will become MORE RECEPTIVE to enabling and excusing and ignoring violent gangs, terrorism, rape and jihad.
Who? My roommate. He gets offended by the Cockney term "Paki" far a corner store. I mentioned Rotherham a year ago and he looked it up at the Guardian and that proved I am racist. Mentioned it this week and "thats just Elon Musk spouting off".
To be as cynical as possible, I guess "Women don't lie about rape", doesn't apply here. Because they were children, see!
The Jan. 3 edition of the NY Times has an article about Michelle Obama's concerns about the 2014 kidnapping of 276 Nigerian schoolgirls by Boko Haram. It happened a long time ago, the reporter sniffed. What's a few hundred kids to a country like Nigeria? And why was Obama meddling in another country's affairs, possibly upsetting some Government ministers?
Oh, sorry. Somehow my lines got crossed. Here's the story (paywalled):
"Elon Musk Has a Strange Fixation With Trolling Britain... In a barrage of posts rife with misinformation, he revived questions about a child sex abuse scandal, vilified the prime minister and defended a jailed far-right agitator."
"[Musk] falsely accused the prime minister, Keir Starmer, of failing to go after child rapists when he was head of public prosecutions..."
"Privately, British officials say they hope that after Mr. Trump’s inauguration later this month, Mr. Musk will be too busy overhauling the American federal government to continue his daily barrage of criticism of Britain and Germany. But in the meantime, his online reach is broad enough that 'it affects the political weather,' Mr. Katwala said, citing the child sex abuse scandal as a case in point.
Mr. Musk’s posts have helped whip up a tempest over a case that was the subject of local and national inquiries dating back to 2014. After one of Mr. Starmer’s ministers, Jess Phillips, pushed back on calls for yet another national investigation — saying it was a matter for the local council — the leader of the opposition Conservative Party, Kemi Badenoch, followed Mr. Farage in castigating the government. 'No one in authority has joined the dots,' she posted on X on Jan. 2.
... [Musk] has also tried to turn the scandal against Mr. Starmer, who ran the Crown Prosecution Service from 2008 to 2013, when the abuses first came to light.
Although several men were imprisoned, the inquiries found that the police and prosecutors were slow to react to the allegations, in part because the victims were reluctant to come forward and in part because of worries about racism, given that most of the accused were British Pakistanis.
'Starmer was complicit in the RAPE OF BRITAIN when he was head of Crown Prosecution for 6 years,' Mr. Musk said in a post that was pinned to the top of his account earlier on Friday. 'Starmer must go and he must face charges for his complicity in the worst mass crime in the history of Britain.'
In fact, in 2013, in the wake of the scandal, Mr. Starmer published new guidelines for how the Crown Prosecution Service should deal with cases of sexual exploitation of children."
Reporter Landler and his editors like censorship. They really, really like censorship:
"In Britain, Mr. Musk’s antagonism toward the Labour government is rooted in part in its aggressive response to hate speech online. Officials said false and inflammatory posts helped incite anti-immigrant riots that followed the killing of three girls in a mass stabbing in the town of Southport last July. They arrested more than 30 people, which prompted Mr. Musk to condemn the government for what he called an attack on the free speech that he extols on his platform, X."
Fortunately, Twitter users (though not, apparently, NYT subscribers) can access a balanced view of this scandal, as well.
What is the "[=0/0]"?
Although the Taki-Mag article of June 2013 did refer to the core of the matter, it did not include the word "Rotherham." There are no mentions of the word "Rotherham" by either you any blog-commenters, until the big story broke in late-August 2014.
The earliest use of the (related) phrase "grooming gangs" at the iSteve-blog was in June 2012, by Simon in London. Reposting here what he wrote at the time:
________
https://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/06/horace-mann-school-pedophilia-or.html
"[T]he Pakistani gangs preying on 15 year old white English underclass girls are routinely called paedophiles in the British media, whereas their attraction is clearly to exploitable post-pubescents who would be of marriageable age in traditional Pakistani culture. The Pakistanis clearly do not consider themselves pedophiles and show no sign of being attracted to pre-pubescents."
"It does make me angry, but primarily at the white ruling class who created this situation by destroying the white working class and importing alien and hostile cultures. The Pakistanis' behaviour remind me of the 'frog & the scorpion' tale – they are behaving 'naturally', according to their own lights – leaving aside possible murders reported by eg the BNP that have not made the mainstream media"
"I said upthread that Pakistani gang murders of white girls were not reported in the UK media – but this is in today's Daily Mail – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155823/Social-workers-hid-fact-knew-teenage-mother-risk-sex-grooming-gangs-SIX-YEARS-brutally-murdered.html
(end quote from Simon in London, 2012)
____________
That June 2012 'Daily Mail' article featured the core of the later "Rotherham" story (i.e., "grooming gang"; i.e., anti-White sexual exploitation story). As of the mid-late 2000s, I believe the BNP was making it a central issue but no one else wanted to touch it.
The June 2012 Daily Mail story reads in part:
"Laura Wilson, 17, from Rotherham had been groomed for sex [since age 13] by a string of British Pakistani men..." and was murdered in 2010.
So we have the sotry, somewhere out there, in 2012: anti-White immigrant sex-crimes, and we have Rotherham, England. But it would take more than two more years to get more attention to a known problem, before anyone was willing to pull the trigger on an allegation of a large-scale RACIAL problem.
The authority that finally publicized it was someone against sex-crimes within the Town of Rotherham government. It was only their official report that gave cover to media-outlets willing to cover a (basically) known problem.
The 2014 report said the Muslim rape-gangs targeting vulnerable White girls had been active already by the late 1990s in a systematic way in the Town of Rotherham. It can't have been a tightly guarded secret for too long once it began. I suppose that when the BNP near its height in the 2000s began pushing the matter, that mainstream opinion treated the BNP as either insane fabricators or near-fabricators (i.e., taking a small thing, a few isolated cases, and inflating them to enormous scale unfairly), racial-demagogues who wanted Muslims out of Britain. But it's funny who turned out being right and who wrong.
One question that remains: Why 2014? Why not earlier, in 2004? Or 2009? Or later, in 2019?
Cops V. Teachers (last but one) mentions an Andrew Rotherham, not the town of Rotherham.
But good to see you have been keeping watch.
The level of official delusion on the subject of Muslim immigration to various European countries is truly staggering. The only way to reverse it would be mass repatriation as well as significantly harsher criminal penalties, but just as in the US, the powers that be a) lack the guts and b) have enough institutional power to ignore what the people want.
The left in the West seems to think the passage of time inevitably results in a better society (ie, the arc of history is long but bends towards justice), but the chain of decisions made over the last 50 years means best case we will have highly fractured societies in which the historic peoples try to physically and culturally insulate themselves while upholding a system that gives the problematic arrivals significant political power. The only off-ramp is a serious and what would be viewed as barbaric/anti-liberal programme to alter the current demographic mix by expelling as many non-natives as possible. I doubt the will exists for this.
Well said. We are, sadly, watching the destruction of Western culture before our eyes.
You do good work, Steve—there's no better "noticer" in the business, IMO. That's why you're my only paid Substack.
This whole import-everybody-and-it-will-be-Wonderful Project is cultural suicide, IMHO.
O/T
Sports Illustrated names Simone Biles its Sportsperson of the Year for 2024. This is a bit of a surprise as Time gave Caitlin Clark the same honor. Once upon a time they were sister publications so Time didn't give its own award but with the decimation of print media they are now under different ownership.
Clark definitely had the biggest impact on sports in 2024 but Biles had a better comeback story and has more Pokémon points, so Bob's your uncle.
https://www.si.com/sportsperson/simone-biles-sports-illustrated-2024-sportsperson-of-the-year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maiden_Tribute_of_Modern_Babylon
Everything old is new again. This is why they raised the age of consent in the first place. Ironically I saw a report that the local cops were told to lay off if the 13 year old were voluntarily whores...just the excuse made in the above linked expose.
This was about the first big investigative journalism in a magazine ever.
Thanks - it's embarrassing that we have to air our dirty laundry in front of Americans to get anything done by our weak Establishment in Britain but thanks for taking our side, especially as you take little advantage from it. It's the greatest taboo in Britain at the moment, even moreso than Muslim terrorism.
This was in 2004, I think the story was linked in one of Steve's Takimag pieces above:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/aug/09/channel4.otherparties
"The explosive grooming story nearly didn't make the shortlist. Hall had already filmed several other stories through the children's department which she was unable to screen for legal reasons. "We weren't looking for this issue," she says. "It just kept surfacing. Social workers said, 'You can't do that story because it's too difficult.' What did they mean by 'too difficult'? Too racially sensitive?"
"The social workers she spoke to were appalled and frustrated, but also frightened of becoming targets of violence if they spoke out publicly, as were the mothers she spoke to. Hall decided to confront these difficulties and work with two mothers whose anonymity she promised to preserve.
"What emerges from these women's account, and from the testimony of two girls, one of them currently being groomed, is disturbing. Men from Bradford's Asian community, they claim, are targeting girls from 11 or 12 years up, taking them out in their cars, and giving them alcohol and gifts. The girls are flattered into believing that the men love them. Subsequently, they might be given heroin and crack cocaine and date-rape drugs, raped vaginally and anally, and in some cases, abducted and gang-raped.
Thanks for doing what you do Steve.
Okay, but what will you accomplish? The world is fucked and white former-colonizing or enslaving peoples are screwing over their own poor to assuage the guilt of their ancestors. Bravo. We've understood this for a century.
Do you want a better life? A happier, freer, world? Or just the frustration of "being right" about local tribal injustices and errors done to "your team" -- even while "your team" spurns you?
To what end?
I offer an end. A fix. I just need a mic.
https://ydydy.substack.com/p/all-i-have-to-sell-is-brotherhood
Here's a fired-up Douglas Murray repeating Steve's point about a major reason for the coverup:
https://youtu.be/fDh85cohwms?t=1100
Canada, Germany and the UK are well on their way to becoming countries that suppress free speech much like Russia, Iran and China. We in the US must acknowledge this fact and realize that we can no longer be allies with countries that don’t share our love of freedom.
Steve,
I'm about say something horrible but we need to see reality.
I think maybe 15% of people in the US will utterly reject the truth of Rotherham because of Elon Musk. The combination of their personal hatred for him, deep brainwashing about "right-wing conspiracy theories", and their absolute certainty that racism is everything, everywhere ... it will not just be dismissed out of hand. The people will become MORE RECEPTIVE to enabling and excusing and ignoring violent gangs, terrorism, rape and jihad.
Who? My roommate. He gets offended by the Cockney term "Paki" far a corner store. I mentioned Rotherham a year ago and he looked it up at the Guardian and that proved I am racist. Mentioned it this week and "thats just Elon Musk spouting off".
To be as cynical as possible, I guess "Women don't lie about rape", doesn't apply here. Because they were children, see!
That's US. the UK and Europe are already lost.
The Jan. 3 edition of the NY Times has an article about Michelle Obama's concerns about the 2014 kidnapping of 276 Nigerian schoolgirls by Boko Haram. It happened a long time ago, the reporter sniffed. What's a few hundred kids to a country like Nigeria? And why was Obama meddling in another country's affairs, possibly upsetting some Government ministers?
Oh, sorry. Somehow my lines got crossed. Here's the story (paywalled):
"Elon Musk Has a Strange Fixation With Trolling Britain... In a barrage of posts rife with misinformation, he revived questions about a child sex abuse scandal, vilified the prime minister and defended a jailed far-right agitator."
by Mark Landler
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/world/europe/elon-musk-britain-social-media.html
--- Begin fair-use excerpt ---
"[Musk] falsely accused the prime minister, Keir Starmer, of failing to go after child rapists when he was head of public prosecutions..."
"Privately, British officials say they hope that after Mr. Trump’s inauguration later this month, Mr. Musk will be too busy overhauling the American federal government to continue his daily barrage of criticism of Britain and Germany. But in the meantime, his online reach is broad enough that 'it affects the political weather,' Mr. Katwala said, citing the child sex abuse scandal as a case in point.
Mr. Musk’s posts have helped whip up a tempest over a case that was the subject of local and national inquiries dating back to 2014. After one of Mr. Starmer’s ministers, Jess Phillips, pushed back on calls for yet another national investigation — saying it was a matter for the local council — the leader of the opposition Conservative Party, Kemi Badenoch, followed Mr. Farage in castigating the government. 'No one in authority has joined the dots,' she posted on X on Jan. 2.
... [Musk] has also tried to turn the scandal against Mr. Starmer, who ran the Crown Prosecution Service from 2008 to 2013, when the abuses first came to light.
Although several men were imprisoned, the inquiries found that the police and prosecutors were slow to react to the allegations, in part because the victims were reluctant to come forward and in part because of worries about racism, given that most of the accused were British Pakistanis.
'Starmer was complicit in the RAPE OF BRITAIN when he was head of Crown Prosecution for 6 years,' Mr. Musk said in a post that was pinned to the top of his account earlier on Friday. 'Starmer must go and he must face charges for his complicity in the worst mass crime in the history of Britain.'
In fact, in 2013, in the wake of the scandal, Mr. Starmer published new guidelines for how the Crown Prosecution Service should deal with cases of sexual exploitation of children."
--- End fair-use excerpt ---
Charlie Bentley-Astor probably sees things a bit differently. See her Twitter feed: https://x.com/astor_charlie . And many other posts, such as https://x.com/megbasham/status/1876085224007746001
Reporter Landler and his editors like censorship. They really, really like censorship:
"In Britain, Mr. Musk’s antagonism toward the Labour government is rooted in part in its aggressive response to hate speech online. Officials said false and inflammatory posts helped incite anti-immigrant riots that followed the killing of three girls in a mass stabbing in the town of Southport last July. They arrested more than 30 people, which prompted Mr. Musk to condemn the government for what he called an attack on the free speech that he extols on his platform, X."
Fortunately, Twitter users (though not, apparently, NYT subscribers) can access a balanced view of this scandal, as well.
https://x.com/astor_charlie/status/1873850970779627947