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Steve Sailer's avatar

Reminds me of when Chris Rufo had his big breakthrough five years ago just before the 2020 election, and people would ask me: Yes, but why is he emphasizing X and Y but NOT Z?

I would respond: He's doing a great job of having a real-world impact. He seems to know what he's doing.

Same with Jacob Savage's big breakthrough after years of trying to protest DEI: he's finetuned an indictment of DEI that will, finally, sell. Good for him!

Brettbaker's avatar

It's not like guys like Savage weren't warned that they would be fellow white people whether they wanted to be or not.

Steve Sailer's avatar

I've been pointing that out for decades. I presume Savage benefited from my data but also from me as a counter-example of what not to do by my blurting out the various implications of the data rather than focusing on just a few. Savage has been writing really good stuff along these lines for a few years now, but he finally broke through this time by:

1. Combine data and human interest in one article

2. Make the bad guys older white men

3. Don't mention the IQ Gap

4. Don't mention the Jews this time as in his 2023 article.

Wiley's avatar

In answer to the title, it's because the white males that matter, rurals with roots and agency, still haven't heard the message. So it will repeat until they hear it.

Gordo's avatar

I can’t see them joining our team to be honest, but hey you can try.

Erik's avatar

My nephews seem pretty based.

m droy's avatar

"After the subsequent upsurge of approval for Hamas’ raid on Israel by the Diverse, "

There is glib and there is this.

It's a genocide and the inability of the media to state this should be a classic Steve Sailer topic.

What's the problem Steve? You won't find a better example of deliberate deception by the media that this.

Larry, San Francisco's avatar

Unlike what Islamic State did to the Christians and Yezidis in Iraq and Syria? Or the Chinese are doing to Uighurs or what is going on in Africa? Did you ever care about that? I doubt it.

Not to mention that Israeli Arabs are doing well and even the west bank Palestinians are not being culled (although they are losing land-perhaps they should have signed Clinton's peace treaty). The

I think the main thing that links the rightwing antisemites with the left wing is that they are pissed that the Iraqi and Syrian Jews were able to flee to Israel instead of being slaughtered like the other minorities. Why should the Jews be so privileged?

Gordo's avatar

Yes Islamic State did make a point of targetting Christians.

m droy's avatar

They were always backed by a combination of US/UK/Trukey and Israel and their main goal from the start was to shock and get on TV. Killing Christians was a key part of that. That is what permitted US to send troops to Syria to make it harder for Assad to deal with them.

m droy's avatar

Well totally unlike the Chinese and Ujghurs - that is well established fake news as you really ought to know. Equally you should know that ISIS in Syria were always backed by US. So that was US killing Christians - just as IDF and settlers kill Christians in Palestine,

But WTF - are you really justifying the genocide from October 7th.

Have you ever thought any of this through from a moral POV.

Sacred Spain's avatar

The triumph of “The Culture of Critique”.

Diana Murray's avatar

Carl Reiner was critiquing America? I thought The Dick Van Dyke Show was a love letter to the America That Once Was.

(Fun fact: another producer on the show was the Lebanese-American Danny Thomas.)

Tina Trent's avatar

He was making a tv show. He used his wealth to attack white Americans. Read Double Lives or The Venona Files, all by accredited academicians. He especially despised southern white women. He expresses this with great crudeness in his book about how Paul Robeson "saved his life."

Paulus's avatar

Yesterday, on Scott Adams' daily podcast (now delivered from his hospital bed as he slowly dies from cancer), the reliably reasonable Adams shares your take on Rob Reiner. Adams also has no problem with Trump honestly expressing his opinion about a political opponent who made it his life's mission to defame and destroy him. Also, I heard on the podcast of Matt Taibbi and Walter Kirn that Reiner didn't get his role on "All in the Family" by auditioning for it, but because he was a personal friend of Norman Lear.

Ralph L's avatar

I just saw somewhere that his father Carl was a friend of Norman Lear. They were both born in 1922.

David Hyder's avatar

I had hoped for elucidation of something I had begun noticing in the late 90d & early 00s. Sadly I was disappointed. A long article on Jewish exclusion but nothing really about discrimination against ywm or the why of that.

Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

Am I supposed to feel for the poor Jewish writers, etc. who didn’t get jobs? Their co-religionists voted for the people who inflicted it upon them. 70+% vote Democratic, every election. As Obama said, “elections have consequences”.

countenanceblog the expat's avatar

Already read the newer Savage piece. My two hot takes while and after doing so:

(1) It comes off as a "too late to the party" essay. Others who have gotten that same impression call it a "permission piece." 10/7 is probably the primary reason.

(2) Did Savage or any of his white or "white" friends in the DEI-ravaged creative industries truly think that their being anti-white would save them? Like painting blood on the door sill. No, in reality, as it was always going to be, the bell was going to toll for them as much as it did for anyone else.

Something else important here: Someone quipped that every major non-Jewish identity and interest constituency that the ADL (and by deduction. organized activist Jewish interests) ever took up for have now turned on them. I can add to that: A group that the ADL never liked, American right of center Christian evangelicals, were always on their side on Israel, but are now getting either too old or too dead and are losing clout, and their children and grandchildren are far less enthralled with Jews and Israel.

Erik's avatar

WRT point 2, my personal anecdotal experience is that they are still in denial. Denial to maintain one's identity is a powerful instinct and, unless you steep yourself in media like Sailer, it's surprisingly easy to maintain even now--especially if you are late in your career and not in a high profile industry.

Boulevardier's avatar

It’s to put whites in their place culturally, to signal a lower social priority or value. Who feels this way? Blacks in particular, but that would not mean much without sympathetic white collaborators who derive status and joy from being traitors to their race, since they command the institutions that make widespread discrimination possible. As readers of Steve undoubtedly know, the only group in the US that shows less preference for their own group than others are whites on the left politically, which is also disproportionately female.

The people behind all of this conjured up the myth of widespread white supremacy to explain why whites dominated society and/or minorities and subgroups performed worse on a variety of metrics relative to whites, and thus heavy handed Kendiism was necessary and just. There really wasn’t any cohesive white identity nor did whites vote as such, but thanks to the anti-white left, there will be a meaningful share of the white population that will be openly self interested on racial grounds.

This is the only real solution if one doesn’t want to be de facto and essentially de jure second class citizens permanently.

Bill Price's avatar

Jewish cultural power probably peaked in the Seinfeld era. Given demographics it was bound to decline, and because having cultural dominance is a force multiplier the rather precipitous nature of the decline isn't all that surprising.

I'm sure it's painful for Savage, but he clearly doesn't care at all that white Christian men were being "replaced" as early as the 1970s.

Jews are smart and not an enormous, unwieldy mass of people, so they'll probably be the first to successfully execute a pivot on this issue. But until we recognize the greater injustice done to the greater number of people this problem won't go away.

barnabus's avatar

Don't think it will be possible to execute a pivot. Pulling up stakes and leaving will be easier.

Bill Price's avatar

Where to? Not many good options, I'm afraid.

barnabus's avatar

For Jews, Israel would be better than the USA dominated by Mamdanis, Tlaibs and Omars. For other whites - probably some other non-woke white country. Awfully few of those, though! If I count correctly, that's just the 4 Visegrad states plus Russia.

TinyDancer's avatar

Nothing good is often easy. There’s a theory (or maybe even science a la Huberman I think ) that doing things you don’t want to do makes better & bigger brains). Maybe being persecuted for ever has helped make Jewish people so smart. Now, back to enjoying re-runs of Seinfeld ;)

barnabus's avatar

I don't think brains help much during persecution. More so, in re-establishing a niche post-persecution.

TinyDancer's avatar

Too big brains are often a curse or at least a disadvantage. I’ve got more than a few in my family. One is functionally illiterate and the other is simply pathological. Another is nihilistic and another was…well, the point being that being super smart can cut different ways.

Erik's avatar

The 1970s? Nah, the 1970s were just the beginning of Jewish writers not giving every character a Mayflower compatible name. All the great comic books for example, were written by Jews and all the characters names were Richards and Parker until the 1980s. Daredevil, from the Hell's Kitchen Slum had as WASPy sounding an Irish surname as possible.

Dick Van Dyke was based on Carl Reiner's life.

And, throughout this time there were plenty of gentile writers and directors too, because, you know, a competitive business selects for merit.

Bill Price's avatar

Well I wasn't thinking only of the entertainment business, but now that you mention it, yes, there were lots of WASPy guys writing, directing and shooting even into the 80s. Seeing so many Anglo names in the credits of movies from that time really drives home how much has changed.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Not really. See Ben Hecht's "Guide For The Bedevilled" where he mocks his fellow movie men for cowardly adding every gentile name possible to the credits to try and un-semitize the endeavor.

And speaking of Hecht and Movie making I can't help sharing the best poem I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/Lmc42G_lvrk

Bill Price's avatar

Funny allusion to Maimonides. Yes, maybe that happened, but there were plenty of Anglo directors back then.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Yeah, ofc. Also, I do talk about Rambam a lot, but did I mention him in that video? I hope so because that alone would be funny 😂

Steve Sailer's avatar

A famous observation about Golden Age Hollywood movies was that they were made by Jews about Protestants for Catholics.

The Coen Brothers have a scene set in 1950 where the movie studio fixer runs the plot of their latest Bible movie past their panel of a rabbi, minister and Catholic and Orthodox priests and get approvals from all. It starts off as satire but it winds up being pretty appreciative of America in 1950.

Erik's avatar

I love that scene. Of course that movie is set during the peak Hayes Code era which Quentin Tarantino loathes as about the blandest. The best eras required the least fear of offending your sensibilities. Of course the past 10-15 have managed to both offend my sensibilities and suck ass. Cool trick.

Tina Trent's avatar

I think the Hayes Code had an upside: it required more creativity to convey feeling without reverting to exploitation -- in the sense of exploitation films, which do have their own weird insights.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

If you speak of Jews and Christians as ethnic groups alone then I jave no issue with your take. But if those words mean to imply religious concerns then we ought to decouple skin pigmentation from the equation.

That Jews do not act like our father in heaven prefers is a concern of mine AS A RABBI only inasmuch as they claim to be doing otherwise.

How *anybody* acts (white, pink or purple - jew, gentile, or mormon) is a concern to me as a human.

But these are not demographic-wide concerns.

"Jews" are not smart. Whatever your definition of smart, it applies only to some Jews.

Presumably however you are referring to a cultural shift taken by the "smart" among them which the less intelligent will accept via osmosis.

Perhaps so. But what does this do for me or for you? What does it do for the reputation of Judaism - or for the reputation of Christianity or that matter? Or for rhe reputation of the God of The Book?

I'm rounding up allies for battle. It's time to take the world back for ALL OF US from the few who currently own the whole goshdarn thing.

Bill Price's avatar

Fair enough. Ethnically we'd be talking about Ashkenazim and Anglos (a little more loosely interpreted in this case) here. But as Americans, I think everyone involved had a duty to be honest about how affirmative action was about throwing some to the wolves to save your own hide, and Savage just happened to be one of the later victims.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Michael Savage actually reads me (as in, he opens every newsletter email multiple times and clicks the links). I know his real name is Weiner so I can't guess as to whether this Savage is a relative or not.

As for affirmative action, I am not a fan of human beings suffering simply because they don't have the strength of body, mind, or bank account to not suffer.

Affirmative actually — like ALL demographic-sized discriminations — was ALWAYS wrong and I have a very very long history on Steve's page, going back 20 years, opposing it.

Not because somebody eith a higher IQ deserves the gig more than somebody with less but because the entire fabric of our social contract is moldy and diseased and must be burned — not salvaged by taking from Peter to pay Paul.

Most especially not when Peter is an underprivileged individual and Paul is already privileged, which is generally how affirmative action works.

Bill Price's avatar

Well then, maybe you can tell him that discrimination against white men was already pervasive in the 1980s in "unimportant" jobs such as firefighting and policing. By the 90s it had already begun in humanities departments, and disciplines such as Anthropology (that I can speak to personally).

Remember Michael J. Fox in The Secret to my Success (1987)?

There's a scene where he's applying for jobs and they won't hire him because he's a white male. This discrimination was widely acknowledged back then.

It's just that certain industries got a "pass" until roughly Obama's second term. Entertainment and software were two of them. Savage was just one of the first victims of that expanded affirmative action, but many, many people faced the same barriers before him in other fields.

I'm glad he spoke up, but to say he's uniquely victimized because of his demographic is simply not correct. It's been a fact of life for those of us ten and even fifteen years his senior for our entire adult lives.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Discrimination IS a fact and has been for all of history. Whether it is against people of any color, religion or language doesn't matter..There but for the grace of God go we all.

People who change their alliances depending upon what's better for them personally are poler competitors, not ideologues. Nobody owes them anything and they should enjoy the bed they’ve set.

The safest route is obviously one where we are NOT thrown to the mercy of the winds if our brain or body chemistry can't “make it” in the system.

I - and my ginest ancestors - have been shouting this for centuries.

https://ydydy.substack.com/p/egypt-revealed-as-nobody-else-possibly

I wouldn't bother you with it had our ancient self-critiques not leaked out to the rest of humanity making it such, at this point, the guilt and the pinishment is not for semites to bear alone.

Tina Trent's avatar

There were decades of grotesque discrimination against competent women, blacks, and white men without degrees or pedigrees.

The answer never was affirmative action or massive government lawsuits. It would have been a harder and longer road to establish simple equality in hiring the best person, but it had, partially, been done before. When IBM expanded into southern mills and paper plants, they administered IQ tests to every worker. The top scorers, some previously in very low positions, were promoted to computerize their systems.

But they still paid the men who scored equally with women much, much more for decades. Then they fell into extreme affirmative action like everyone else. In each generation, someone got burned, and not enough was learned.

Jim Don Bob's avatar

JS is about 40 years too late, but, hey, who cares about all the cops and firemen who got passed over for promotion by lower scoring POCs? Or Army guys who didn’t get promoted so Colin Powell could be JCS chairman? What’s important is that JS can’t get a job in Hollywood, yet he is still on the libtard band wagon.

Steve Sailer's avatar

A friend of mine ghostwrote the never-published autobiography of a certain titanic right-of-center news media baron. He asked his subject why he was subsidizing a neoconservative magazine. The business giant replied:

Look, you don't need all the Jews in New York on your side, but you sure need some of the Jews in New York on your side.

But a lot of personalities on the right seem to assume that because post-October 7, 2023, a lot of Jews are down on the Left and more open to the Right, now is the perfect time to get some revenge on Jews for having been so powerful for so long.

Bill Price's avatar

I think it's fundamentally an ethical issue: they mistake spite for justice.

Honestly I don't know what to do about it because it isn't an obvious distinction.

barnabus's avatar

Compared to the Zionist "menace", the Jewish anti-Zionist menace is much worse, by producing exactly such things as DEI. Who do you think Jewish anti-Zionists like Hannah Arendt of "Eichmann in Jerusalem" fame would ally with? White Christian non-Jews or underperforming minorities?

Kim's avatar

"Everybody can read and submit comments on this post." Steve, thank you so much for another great article & the ability to comment though I'm not a paid subscriber. I did recently purchase Noticing, An Essential Reader. It makes a great Christmas gift & it's nice you received reviews from Charles Murray,Tucker Carlson, & Charlie Kirk. Keep up the great work.

Al DuClur's avatar

Finally some good news. Jews drove the anti white agenda. It is good that they are feeling the consequences.

Jews are very feminine. They can't tolerate criticism, are very emotional and detest being held accountable.

It wasn't hard to foreseen that our fellow Whites would be lumped in with the Whites they so detest. It must enrage them to be seen as being in the same group as Jew worshipping evangelicals whom they hate.

I guess is they could have figured this out, they wouldn't have been kicked out of 109 countries.

Tina Trent's avatar

I don't think that's the conclusion the awful Phillip Roth reached upon hitting on a female Israeli military veteran. Once.

Tina Trent's avatar

And I don't know where you live, but the Jewish southeners I know down here hunt, drive pick-up trucks, are personally kind and generous, and represent some of the most powerful people in conservative politics. Many families have been here since before the Civil War. My Italian-American uncle had similar cultural experiences in the Fifties in New York City.

Larry, San Francisco's avatar

The first time I met Jewish southerners in the early 1970s I was shocked that their attitudes toward Race and other issues was about the same as the attitude other white Southerners had at the time instead of the super liberal attitudes of the northern Jews I knew. Of course, the Klan being stupid started targeting Jewish southerners since they conflated them with the northern red diaper babies who were allied with the blacks (that worked out well for the Jews didn't it).

As to Jews in the military, I can share my family history. I had some ancestor who fought in the civil war allegedly in Grant's Illinois brigade (not sure that's true). In the first world war one of my grandfathers was in the merchant marine while the other was in the fighting 69th regiment and saw action in all the big battle. My dad was a B-17 navigator who flew 26 missions before he was shot down and managed to escape to Sweden. Another was in a B-24 and was shot done during the Ploesti raid and ended up being saved by Cetnik partisans (whose migration he sponsored after the war). A third friend was a waist gunner who was shot down and got interred in a pretty nasty Swiss prison camp (he hated the Swiss). A fourth was a Marine who won a silver star at Peleliu and was promoted to sergeant which he led a squad on Okinawa (he later became president of the local NRA). My dad's best friend was in the 82nd Airborne and was killed at the Battle of the Bulge.

Tina Trent's avatar

If you're referring to Leo Frank, that story has been so distorted over decades of propaganda films as to be useless. There were several Jewish jurors who found him guilty, for one example. His wife refused to support him, for another. Since then, authors like David Mamet and Alfred Uhry have literally blamed Mary Phagan's rape and murder on the already-dead Phagan herself in novels, plays, movies, and musicals. I don't think we'll ever know if Frank, Conley, or both murdered the girl. The communist red diaper scare came later and is not related to Frank's case, and certainly not the one other case of a Jewish shop owner, in Arkansas, I believe, being lynched.

The Klan killed a heck of a lot more Italians than Jews -- it was either one or two Jew; scores of Italians. The largest mass lynchings were of Italians. There were Jewish klansmen, a very few. No Catholics in the many books I read doing Klan research in graduate school, though. Most important may be the class component. The Klan was always more of a status thing. Yet to the historians and filmmakers go the spoils.

There's an interesting, pristinely documented history of the Klan in Athens, Ga that demonstrates that poor whites weren't generally welcome, though they are exclusively blamed for its existence now. The Klan killed a lot of them too, up into teens, when it turned to enforcing Jim Crow in more disturbing and racially violent mass assaults. Still, many lynchings of white gentiles are forgotten. Intentionally. And let's also not forget that a lot of people who were lynched were in fact guilty. Some black communities lynched black criminals caught abusing black women and children. History is messy and incomplete and made up exclusively of what historians want to have remembered.

Erik's avatar

I have met very few people, Jew or regular, who tolerate criticism well either at a personal level or a group level (by outsiders). Try criticizing white people on this board and find out. Same thing for accountability.

Yancey Ward's avatar

The coasts of the U.S. and the big cities everywhere will know in about 25 years just how well people of color do at building and maintaining infrastructure. It isn't going to be pretty.