A large part of the 70's Yankees success is due to their manager Billy Martin. The three ring circus between Steinbrenner, Martin, and Reggie shouldn't be so overlooked, Steve. Billy Martin has a case for Cooperstown induction, but it's a shame that George was quite sadistic in the multiple hirings and firings of one of his greatest managers.
Regarding Teddy Roosevelt, one of his sons dryly remarked "Everywhere father goes he has to have the attention. If we go to a wedding, he has to be bride. If we go to a funeral, he has to be the corpse."
> Regarding Teddy Roosevelt, one of his sons dryly remarked "Everywhere father goes he has to have the attention. If we go to a wedding, he has to be bride. If we go to a funeral, he has to be the corpse." <
If one has read the title, it's called the George Steinbrenner of Genetics. Thus it is fair use to expand a bit on the topic of George Steinbrenner (especially as Steve then went on to discuss the differences between the 70's Yankees and Dodgers). And of course one cannot credibly discuss Steinbrenner's early years of owning the Yankees without bringing up the name of Billy Martin. In point of fact, one of the main differences in the 70's NY mix, was Billy Martin and the direct impact that he had upon NY.
Interesting that you can discuss Billy Martin, because unfortunately his name is starting to grow a bit dim and faint. Either Cooperstown is gonna come a' callin' soon, or it isn't.
George needed to be chill and let Billy work his magic, his mojo. Everywhere he went he turned sub 500 teams into winners or at least contenders. He won the AL Pennant in 76, and the WS in 77. His own undoing caused him to get axed in mid 78 and then Bob Lemon turned the team around by putting Reggie back in cleanup position and a few cosmetic changes, but basically Bob Lemon won with Billy's team, and that's a shame. IF Billy had stayed through the 78 season and won the WS, he'd be in Cooperstown this very day.
But George was gonna George and kept doing his thing. Ironically Steinbrenner was more influenced by KC/OAK owner Charles Finley, who went through 19 different managers during his 21 yrs of owning the A's.
From 1973-95, Steinbrenner changed managers 20 times.
Yikes. Not a good way to build cohesion for a team.
I was young but followed the antics with alacrity. A distant relative once dated Billy Martin. Not a good decision on her part.
Every night I'd eagerly wait for my father to come home with the NYPost and NYDaily News. Boy, the sports sections then. Night? Heck, he got off work at 5:00 sharp, when the whistle sounded throughout the town and the giant IBM parking lot tidily emptied. If he wasn't on the road training people, he was home by 5:05.
He went to the South a lot. They were computerizing cotton mills, paper factories, and fertilizer plants. IBM would administer a test to every person, from the janitor to the upper management, regardless of sex or race, and the top scorers became their computer team, and my father trained them. Decades later, I met a man whose mother and father met because they scored highest at their cotton mill. She had been a secretary, and he had been a laborer. They became front-office executives.
That would mean she dated Billy while he was still married, but then Billy tended to have a filled Rolodex of women he, uh..."dated". Then as now, ballplayers are sailors; they have one (at the very least) in every port of call.
The number of fights that Billy got in, from the marshmallow salesman, Reno sports reporter, to his own players Boswell and Ed Whitson (where he got his ass kicked, literally and deserved it) only tended to confirm to me that not only does America love a winner, they will look the other way if he's really successful, no matter what the charge.
If Billy had worked at IBM alongside your father and been an ordinary mid level management worker who had a major drinking problem and got into numerous fights whether in or out of bars, he would've been arrested and served some time for the numerous assaults. But because he managed the Yankees, society looked the other way.
> “Without a trace of irony I can sat I have been blessed with brilliant enemies … because they redoubled my energies and drove me in new directions.” <
Real class act comments by E.O. Wilson. Quite the contrast from the attitudes and behavior of some of his "brilliant enemies".
Watson and Wilson were smart driven and honest guys; great men who actually sought to--and did--expand our knowledge and understanding.
Now it may be that the historical record will credit their discoveries and insights to Wang Li and Li Wang. But their ideas will nonetheless live on--because they have the virtue of being true.
Watson’s abrasive / gossipy / brilliant at fundraising / warmly congratulating his successful underlings side is alive and well in the contemporary university
…. On the team that looks forward to widdling on his grave
That set of talents does well in every era, turned to any number of ends, from admirable to lamentable
James D. Watson put away 2000 serial killers in my state alone. At the time, I was living in Geprgia but had survived a serial killer in 1986 in Florida, just before they used DNA in Orlando for the first time in 1988 here in the states. It was an important case.
In Georgia, we identified 2,000+ unknown serial sex offenders by matching them to DNA. About 500 were subsequently convicted, almost all serial stranger offenders. Of the rest, we could find about 500 without more evidence. DNA alone can't always overcome defence attorney sleazyness.
Serial stranger sex offenders tend to be both prolific and tend to move from state to state. Once Watson enabled us to create DNA databases, in which new legislation I helped write didn't start the prosecution time clock until an unknown database offender was identified by name, we got the majority of serial killers and serial sex offenders off the streets. There are many more, and with their knowledge of DNA, they have resorted to grotesque efforts to destroy it, but we still get most.
It's far better than it was before. RIP, James Watson. You saved countless lives. You are my hero.
Speaking of Watsons, the Yankees 90s dynasty was built by GM Bob Watson, who was able to build a team only because Mad King George had been banned from baseball over his deranged jihad against Dave Winfield.
If Steinbrenner hadn't been banished, most likely there goes Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, and he probably would have traded Derek Jeter for Joe Carter or Eddie Murray or whoever would have scored the splashiest back-page headlines.
George was a compulsive publicity addict who had zero patience for developing young players, but he was good with a checkbook.
A large part of the 70's Yankees success is due to their manager Billy Martin. The three ring circus between Steinbrenner, Martin, and Reggie shouldn't be so overlooked, Steve. Billy Martin has a case for Cooperstown induction, but it's a shame that George was quite sadistic in the multiple hirings and firings of one of his greatest managers.
Regarding Teddy Roosevelt, one of his sons dryly remarked "Everywhere father goes he has to have the attention. If we go to a wedding, he has to be bride. If we go to a funeral, he has to be the corpse."
> Regarding Teddy Roosevelt, one of his sons dryly remarked "Everywhere father goes he has to have the attention. If we go to a wedding, he has to be bride. If we go to a funeral, he has to be the corpse." <
Geez. Imagine having a President like that?
I can imagine, because we have one right now in 2025
We are talking about DNA and sex murder, OK? Though I can talk all day about Billy Martin. In another setting.
Uh, no it's NOT OK, like, uh, you know?
If one has read the title, it's called the George Steinbrenner of Genetics. Thus it is fair use to expand a bit on the topic of George Steinbrenner (especially as Steve then went on to discuss the differences between the 70's Yankees and Dodgers). And of course one cannot credibly discuss Steinbrenner's early years of owning the Yankees without bringing up the name of Billy Martin. In point of fact, one of the main differences in the 70's NY mix, was Billy Martin and the direct impact that he had upon NY.
Interesting that you can discuss Billy Martin, because unfortunately his name is starting to grow a bit dim and faint. Either Cooperstown is gonna come a' callin' soon, or it isn't.
I think think they were both magical and dreadful together.
Exactly so.
George needed to be chill and let Billy work his magic, his mojo. Everywhere he went he turned sub 500 teams into winners or at least contenders. He won the AL Pennant in 76, and the WS in 77. His own undoing caused him to get axed in mid 78 and then Bob Lemon turned the team around by putting Reggie back in cleanup position and a few cosmetic changes, but basically Bob Lemon won with Billy's team, and that's a shame. IF Billy had stayed through the 78 season and won the WS, he'd be in Cooperstown this very day.
But George was gonna George and kept doing his thing. Ironically Steinbrenner was more influenced by KC/OAK owner Charles Finley, who went through 19 different managers during his 21 yrs of owning the A's.
From 1973-95, Steinbrenner changed managers 20 times.
Yikes. Not a good way to build cohesion for a team.
I was young but followed the antics with alacrity. A distant relative once dated Billy Martin. Not a good decision on her part.
Every night I'd eagerly wait for my father to come home with the NYPost and NYDaily News. Boy, the sports sections then. Night? Heck, he got off work at 5:00 sharp, when the whistle sounded throughout the town and the giant IBM parking lot tidily emptied. If he wasn't on the road training people, he was home by 5:05.
He went to the South a lot. They were computerizing cotton mills, paper factories, and fertilizer plants. IBM would administer a test to every person, from the janitor to the upper management, regardless of sex or race, and the top scorers became their computer team, and my father trained them. Decades later, I met a man whose mother and father met because they scored highest at their cotton mill. She had been a secretary, and he had been a laborer. They became front-office executives.
American ingenuity.
That would mean she dated Billy while he was still married, but then Billy tended to have a filled Rolodex of women he, uh..."dated". Then as now, ballplayers are sailors; they have one (at the very least) in every port of call.
The number of fights that Billy got in, from the marshmallow salesman, Reno sports reporter, to his own players Boswell and Ed Whitson (where he got his ass kicked, literally and deserved it) only tended to confirm to me that not only does America love a winner, they will look the other way if he's really successful, no matter what the charge.
If Billy had worked at IBM alongside your father and been an ordinary mid level management worker who had a major drinking problem and got into numerous fights whether in or out of bars, he would've been arrested and served some time for the numerous assaults. But because he managed the Yankees, society looked the other way.
Pretty funny that Miss Hunt-Grubbe feels able to declare that Watson is incorrect on anything at all.
That’s “Mr. Steinbrenner” to us mere mortals.
> “Without a trace of irony I can sat I have been blessed with brilliant enemies … because they redoubled my energies and drove me in new directions.” <
Real class act comments by E.O. Wilson. Quite the contrast from the attitudes and behavior of some of his "brilliant enemies".
Watson and Wilson were smart driven and honest guys; great men who actually sought to--and did--expand our knowledge and understanding.
Now it may be that the historical record will credit their discoveries and insights to Wang Li and Li Wang. But their ideas will nonetheless live on--because they have the virtue of being true.
Watson’s abrasive / gossipy / brilliant at fundraising / warmly congratulating his successful underlings side is alive and well in the contemporary university
…. On the team that looks forward to widdling on his grave
That set of talents does well in every era, turned to any number of ends, from admirable to lamentable
Please explain in simple terms. You have no idea how many lives he saved.
His scientific gifts were rare and positive
His management gifts less rare and encountered in both positive and negative contexts
James D. Watson put away 2000 serial killers in my state alone. At the time, I was living in Geprgia but had survived a serial killer in 1986 in Florida, just before they used DNA in Orlando for the first time in 1988 here in the states. It was an important case.
In Georgia, we identified 2,000+ unknown serial sex offenders by matching them to DNA. About 500 were subsequently convicted, almost all serial stranger offenders. Of the rest, we could find about 500 without more evidence. DNA alone can't always overcome defence attorney sleazyness.
Serial stranger sex offenders tend to be both prolific and tend to move from state to state. Once Watson enabled us to create DNA databases, in which new legislation I helped write didn't start the prosecution time clock until an unknown database offender was identified by name, we got the majority of serial killers and serial sex offenders off the streets. There are many more, and with their knowledge of DNA, they have resorted to grotesque efforts to destroy it, but we still get most.
It's far better than it was before. RIP, James Watson. You saved countless lives. You are my hero.
Apparently none of you know the number of lives he saved.
Speaking of Watsons, the Yankees 90s dynasty was built by GM Bob Watson, who was able to build a team only because Mad King George had been banned from baseball over his deranged jihad against Dave Winfield.
If Steinbrenner hadn't been banished, most likely there goes Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, and he probably would have traded Derek Jeter for Joe Carter or Eddie Murray or whoever would have scored the splashiest back-page headlines.
George was a compulsive publicity addict who had zero patience for developing young players, but he was good with a checkbook.