You really think the protests are about Curtis Yarvin? Sailer only says that because he knows Yarvin so this would make him important.
None of the news stories are about Yarvin, so it's simply - a lie. If Sailer was honest he would quote the news articles, which mention that the organizers are "The American Federation of Teachers and Communications Workers of America". Anyone think they seriously care about some online "neo-reactionary" writer named Curtis Yarvin, calling himself Mencius Moldbug?
Yarvin is one of those who go public with his name, so when people want to hear about a future solution, he can't say that it will be violence, which is the only possible solution if any exists. So he came up with something else. Talking about monarchy is safe. If ridiculous, especially in the U.S.
The news stories to which you refer carefully curate their reporting to screen out all the signs calling us Nazis and Racists, Tell. And these were virtually all the signs. I saw one that said "JD Vance Eats Cats," and a few sad little "no human is illegal," but it was almost uniformly so-called "hate speech" against America, Trump, and Trump voters.
Now imagine the opposite. There were a lot of upside-down American flags smeared with red paint to look like blood, some being stomped on, and lots of Mexican flags waved proudly. If I were to turn a Mexican flag upside down and smear it with red paint, what do you think would happen to me, as I was the sole counter-protester and was chest-bumped and screamed at? Who would get to me first: the police to arrest me for anti-Hispanic hate crime, or the 6'4" angry guy who screamed that I was a "Karen" and had to be held back from doing worse?
Regarding your specific argument, of course this strategy and slogan, planned through (more like delivered from on high by professional agitators) national zoom meetings I attended, is all about trying to intimidate less politically committed people who fear being lumped in with "famous racists" like Yarvin and Sailer. The organizers aren't stupid. Their followers didn't show up spontaneously with 500 "Hitler plus King Trump" signs.
And the CWA and AFT are extremely radical organizations. That you don't understand that is ... telling. CWA in Georgia is controlled by a CPUSA-affiliated legislator and her ex-husband. AFT? Former Weathermen. I've never seen a news article mention that.
"no human is illegal" is a brilliantly, poetically stupid construction. It dares you to say the obvious and tells you that it's pointless to, using only four words. It's a good candidate for Ernest Hemingway's shortest story competition.
Along those lines, isn't "Kings" a poor word choice? I don't want a monarchy but that sounds reflexively appealing.
When I was in a leftist protest (back when I was still loyal to the Libertarian Party), I made my own signs and all the people I spoke to at the protest -- pro and con -- knew what they were talking about pretty well.
Yes, one day the pro and con people mingled without incident. That was back in 2003, and the leftists in my city organized like civil rights marchers used to organize, keeping their crazies under control. The other side was very Christian.
I have family members who are very liberal. The assisted dying thing scares me a lot. My family members are basically trend followers, and suicide is becoming trendy.
This made me laugh out loud on my couch. This is what the anti-children left should be doing. Rather than complain about people having too many children (they never tell welfare Mothers and families this), they should lead by example and voluntarily sterilize themselves.
Billionaires overseas and stateside are funneling dough to NGO's who dole out a nice daily wage, and lunch for "protesters" to act out and set fire to random automobiles. If I didn't know better, I'd think this whole protest deal was a well-planned insurance scam. "Sorry, Peaceful Citizen. Domestic troubles require require an increase in your rates."
Yep. The big money men are off the leash, off the rails, and maybe even off the planet if Musk convinces'em he can really get to Mars and survive in style. lol Pass me a fresh NeuraLink.
Well, I just got back from tne Gainesville protests and some necessary conversations about them. Mostly old white virtue-signalling dirtbags, but the Hispanic radicals were showing up when we left. Revving their cars at the cops, who were instructed to do nothing. I guess I was called a Nazi 500 times today, or more. What does one do to respond? Real question.
Calling someone a Nazi is a thought-stopping technique. Cults use them often. For example, what's the proper response to "Trans women are women"? You either say no, yes, or stop the conversation. There's no further thinking required - that's the whole point.
The cultish vibe is very, very powerful. It's especially jarring to see prosperous-looking, white, retired couples, the majority of the crowd, expressing such sneering hatred towards their own country and fellow citizens.
Same in my town. Likely lots of old Vietnam protesters, now in their 70's, who are still filled with resentment. The most common word on their signs began with F. It's like these people never grew up.
Decades ago, I thought the hippies, new left, and anti-South Vietnam protesters were cool. Two or three years ago, I realized they were bad for my mental health, and last year I realized they are also bad for their own. This conviction is firmer since I've been worrying about the increase in black suicides that Steve brought up some time ago. (I wrote I wouldn't research the issue and I haven't dived in, but it's hard to resist, especially because it seems related to less dramatic and more extensive mental health issues.)
I'm disappointed in Steve's baseball knowledge in this Tweet* when he didn't know the starting centerfielder for the 1976 NL All-Stars was George Foster. This was the start of a five-year stretch where the NL had to improvise at CF because the voters chose better-hitting outfielders instead such as Foster and Dave Winfield. That era was bookended by Jim Wynn and Andre Dawson, who were bona fide centerfielders, although Foster started 35 games there in 1976.
It is worth noting that Foster and Kingman were teammates on the putrid 82-83 Mets, but at this time Kingman had moved to first and Foster replaced Lee Mazzilli in LF. Kingman played first until the Mets traded for Keith Hernandez, then Kingman played in only 6 more games that season before going to the Athletics to finish out his career.
Centerfield tended to be a speed position with fine fielders in the 70s. Gary Maddox with the Phillies. Omar Moreno with the Pirates. Cezar Geronimo with the Reds. Bobby Bonds with the Giants hit with power but he wasn't the second coming of Willie Mays. Bake McBride of the Cardinals. Rick Monday of the Cubs. Jimmy "The Toy Cannon" was in decline by 1976.
The 1980s Mets played better baseball after Keith Hernandez replaced Dave Kingman at first base.
Hernandez wasted a couple of years on cocaine, so I'm not averse to him being held out of the Hall of Fame despite him being a hugely great defensive first baseman and a fine hitter.
Baseball players used to be guest stars on sitcoms all the time, but Hernandez was one of the last ballplayers who could live up to the increasing quality of television, playing a three episode arc on the great "Seinfeld" as Elaine's boyfriend.
He's been an excellent announcer for the Mets for decades since.
So the idea that Keith, a highly intelligent man, should be punished for wasting the absolute prime of his great career on cocaine seems fair, even though he'd be clearly over the Hall of Fame benchmark of 60 Wins Above Replacement if he never heard of cocaine. He's at 60.3 right now. He'd probably be at 65+ if he'd never touched coke.
So if eventually Hernandez gets into HoF, that would seem fair too, but I also don't mind him being made to suffer in the meantime.
I haven't been paying close attention, but I haven't heard of KH whining about not being in the HoF. So, I'm not averse to him being forgiven either.
Keith was famously one of the Pittsburgh 7, which was a cocaine trial.
If Steve is reading this, I am curious what he thinks of Dave Parker getting inducted into Cooperstown this summer. After all, he and Hernandez received the same punishment from Peter Ueberroth for the same offense, both were traded when the cocaine started to negatively affect their play, and both had a career renaissance which included winning another World Series. Having said that, while Parker may have had more swagger at the time, I would say that by modern metrics Hernandez was the superior player, and it's not even particularly close.
Of the Pittsburgh 7, the least-impactful player was Dale Berra, whose dad was fired 16 games into their tenure together with the Yankees in 1985. Dale started 8 of those games at third base, where he made 4 errors.
Lonnie Smith was a solid player who won three rings with three different teams
It's sad, the '86 Mets were the greatest team of all time. I used to go watch them during spring training at Al Lang Stadium when I was in college in Sarasota. Me and a couple hundred geezers. We kvetched in the stands about skin cancer, and Strawberry and Gooden and Carter were golden. Before hitchiking back to college (God forbid) I sometimes had a single beer with some of the players at the bar near the stadium. I'm in NO way a flashy female (there were plenty of golddiggers and hookers), and I was a kid, and they were all perfect gentlemen. I'd call my dad and tell him I'd just been talking to Dwight or Darryl, and he was amazed. Gooden was just a baby. He looked about 15. I don't remember Hernandez. I ran into Lenny Dykstra in a mall in Atlanta years later, and he seemed insane. Strawberry and Gooden have tried to get their acts together in Tampa for a long time. Sad, but they do try.
> The 1980s Mets played better baseball after Keith Hernandez replaced Dave Kingman at first base.
LOL this is quite the understatement! As an aside, Kingman's backup at first base was none other than iSteve Hall of Famer Rusty Staub.
I will say that I have never heard Keith complain about his lack of support in Hall of Fame voting. I will also say that growing up in New Jersey in the 80s, if you told me that neither Keith Hernandez nor Don Mattingly would even come close to getting into the Hall of Fame, I would have called bullshit, yet here we are...
Nah, these folks don't notice that they don't notice. Have you seen the video of these European dopes who tried to march through Egypt to rescue the Gazans? Do you know how many layers of things you need to keep from you brain to do that--and to react the way they did when they were stopped?
Ouch! A green-haired, me-too old fish without bicycle. It's gotta hurt to get bought-and-sold-out so cheap. Gertrude Stein did HER no favors. Rock on, MisterSteve.
I live in the French Quarter in New Orleans and yesterday outside my balcony there were three separate groups over a period of a few hours: Naked Bike Riders, Palestine protesters and a Pride Parade. If you have a choice to see one, go for the Bike Riders.
"Noticing" is a pre-viral title, works well enough for the target audience, I suppose. Kings, on the other hand, get the juices flowing on both sides, i.e., are viral (and perhaps not coincidentally are virile). You can't judge a book by its cover, but The Man Who Would Be King will always outsell The Man Who Would Notice.
To be obscure, it would be funny to have a lefty protesting Sam Francis with a picture of Francis on a posterboard with his face crossed out like Steve Sailer's. Francis died in 2005.
"I read the guy before he was the subject of Two Minute Hates!"
You really think the protests are about Curtis Yarvin? Sailer only says that because he knows Yarvin so this would make him important.
None of the news stories are about Yarvin, so it's simply - a lie. If Sailer was honest he would quote the news articles, which mention that the organizers are "The American Federation of Teachers and Communications Workers of America". Anyone think they seriously care about some online "neo-reactionary" writer named Curtis Yarvin, calling himself Mencius Moldbug?
Yarvin is one of those who go public with his name, so when people want to hear about a future solution, he can't say that it will be violence, which is the only possible solution if any exists. So he came up with something else. Talking about monarchy is safe. If ridiculous, especially in the U.S.
The news stories to which you refer carefully curate their reporting to screen out all the signs calling us Nazis and Racists, Tell. And these were virtually all the signs. I saw one that said "JD Vance Eats Cats," and a few sad little "no human is illegal," but it was almost uniformly so-called "hate speech" against America, Trump, and Trump voters.
Now imagine the opposite. There were a lot of upside-down American flags smeared with red paint to look like blood, some being stomped on, and lots of Mexican flags waved proudly. If I were to turn a Mexican flag upside down and smear it with red paint, what do you think would happen to me, as I was the sole counter-protester and was chest-bumped and screamed at? Who would get to me first: the police to arrest me for anti-Hispanic hate crime, or the 6'4" angry guy who screamed that I was a "Karen" and had to be held back from doing worse?
Regarding your specific argument, of course this strategy and slogan, planned through (more like delivered from on high by professional agitators) national zoom meetings I attended, is all about trying to intimidate less politically committed people who fear being lumped in with "famous racists" like Yarvin and Sailer. The organizers aren't stupid. Their followers didn't show up spontaneously with 500 "Hitler plus King Trump" signs.
And the CWA and AFT are extremely radical organizations. That you don't understand that is ... telling. CWA in Georgia is controlled by a CPUSA-affiliated legislator and her ex-husband. AFT? Former Weathermen. I've never seen a news article mention that.
"no human is illegal" is a brilliantly, poetically stupid construction. It dares you to say the obvious and tells you that it's pointless to, using only four words. It's a good candidate for Ernest Hemingway's shortest story competition.
Along those lines, isn't "Kings" a poor word choice? I don't want a monarchy but that sounds reflexively appealing.
I didn't know anything about Curtis Yarvin and had to look him up. For the benefit of others: I found plenty of leftist descriptions, but this one in Times of India seems the most objective. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/who-is-curtis-yarvin-meet-the-intellectual-source-code-of-the-second-trump-administration/articleshow/121594028.cms
Sailer is Goldstein?
I like it but I bet the person holding the sign has no idea what you are talking about.
People holding signs at demonstrations usually have no idea what they're talking about.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, protest.
When I was in a leftist protest (back when I was still loyal to the Libertarian Party), I made my own signs and all the people I spoke to at the protest -- pro and con -- knew what they were talking about pretty well.
Yes, one day the pro and con people mingled without incident. That was back in 2003, and the leftists in my city organized like civil rights marchers used to organize, keeping their crazies under control. The other side was very Christian.
The woman has blue hair. She must be deranged.
You asked what would be the next Big Thing, and it occurred to me this week: Assisted Dying.
There's an awful lot of anti-Boomer hate already, and the debt crisis will make it much worse.
Can't wait to get the money.
It’s legal in several states and Canada plus a number of European countries.
polyamory, then some sort of bestiality, and eventually, pedophilia
I have family members who are very liberal. The assisted dying thing scares me a lot. My family members are basically trend followers, and suicide is becoming trendy.
Sucks to be you!
I don't support suicide but I do think that tens of millions of leftists should consider castration. Do it early and do it now!
This made me laugh out loud on my couch. This is what the anti-children left should be doing. Rather than complain about people having too many children (they never tell welfare Mothers and families this), they should lead by example and voluntarily sterilize themselves.
Castration and sterilization go against my Catholic faith but very few lefties are Catholic. What am I to say?
Some of them have been doing that.
The Left really needs to dial their rhetoric back. Here's the count so far:
United Healthcare CEO assassinated
Two assassination attempts on Trump
Assassination attempt on governor of PA and his family
Top Minnesota Democratic legislator and his wife assassinated and two others seriously injured
And Trump's term has 3.5 more years to go!
You mean "and her husband." The male legislator still lives.
He really went there.
I can see this one taking off!
I'll be there.
With my face mask, black clothing, and Antifa-style backpack. I will even remember to pack a few extra jars of throwing urine!
Billionaires overseas and stateside are funneling dough to NGO's who dole out a nice daily wage, and lunch for "protesters" to act out and set fire to random automobiles. If I didn't know better, I'd think this whole protest deal was a well-planned insurance scam. "Sorry, Peaceful Citizen. Domestic troubles require require an increase in your rates."
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/evg/d/seattle-demonstrators-needed/7857712648.html
More "protection racket" than "insurance scam", I'd say. But they are similar concepts, I suppose.
Yep. The big money men are off the leash, off the rails, and maybe even off the planet if Musk convinces'em he can really get to Mars and survive in style. lol Pass me a fresh NeuraLink.
Well, I just got back from tne Gainesville protests and some necessary conversations about them. Mostly old white virtue-signalling dirtbags, but the Hispanic radicals were showing up when we left. Revving their cars at the cops, who were instructed to do nothing. I guess I was called a Nazi 500 times today, or more. What does one do to respond? Real question.
Nothing. It’s impossible to have conversations with morons.
Calling someone a Nazi is a thought-stopping technique. Cults use them often. For example, what's the proper response to "Trans women are women"? You either say no, yes, or stop the conversation. There's no further thinking required - that's the whole point.
I think Orwell once wrote that a fascist was anyone the left hates. That was in the 1940s.
The cultish vibe is very, very powerful. It's especially jarring to see prosperous-looking, white, retired couples, the majority of the crowd, expressing such sneering hatred towards their own country and fellow citizens.
Same in my town. Likely lots of old Vietnam protesters, now in their 70's, who are still filled with resentment. The most common word on their signs began with F. It's like these people never grew up.
They want to be cool like Grace Slick.
"...never grew up." You got it right!
Decades ago, I thought the hippies, new left, and anti-South Vietnam protesters were cool. Two or three years ago, I realized they were bad for my mental health, and last year I realized they are also bad for their own. This conviction is firmer since I've been worrying about the increase in black suicides that Steve brought up some time ago. (I wrote I wouldn't research the issue and I haven't dived in, but it's hard to resist, especially because it seems related to less dramatic and more extensive mental health issues.)
"I know you are but what am I?"
I totally forgot to quote Pee-Wee Herman.
This fiendishly clever witticism predates Pee-wee by many years.
I suspect it dates back to roman times.
I'm sure it does, but let's give him credit for perfecting the delivery. Interesting documentary about him just came out. Poor PeeWee, gone too soon.
No no!
Noticing things is wrong. Conform, keep your head down and obey Joy Behar.
O/T
I'm disappointed in Steve's baseball knowledge in this Tweet* when he didn't know the starting centerfielder for the 1976 NL All-Stars was George Foster. This was the start of a five-year stretch where the NL had to improvise at CF because the voters chose better-hitting outfielders instead such as Foster and Dave Winfield. That era was bookended by Jim Wynn and Andre Dawson, who were bona fide centerfielders, although Foster started 35 games there in 1976.
It is worth noting that Foster and Kingman were teammates on the putrid 82-83 Mets, but at this time Kingman had moved to first and Foster replaced Lee Mazzilli in LF. Kingman played first until the Mets traded for Keith Hernandez, then Kingman played in only 6 more games that season before going to the Athletics to finish out his career.
* https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1933813563065581786
Centerfield tended to be a speed position with fine fielders in the 70s. Gary Maddox with the Phillies. Omar Moreno with the Pirates. Cezar Geronimo with the Reds. Bobby Bonds with the Giants hit with power but he wasn't the second coming of Willie Mays. Bake McBride of the Cardinals. Rick Monday of the Cubs. Jimmy "The Toy Cannon" was in decline by 1976.
The 1980s Mets played better baseball after Keith Hernandez replaced Dave Kingman at first base.
Hernandez wasted a couple of years on cocaine, so I'm not averse to him being held out of the Hall of Fame despite him being a hugely great defensive first baseman and a fine hitter.
Baseball players used to be guest stars on sitcoms all the time, but Hernandez was one of the last ballplayers who could live up to the increasing quality of television, playing a three episode arc on the great "Seinfeld" as Elaine's boyfriend.
He's been an excellent announcer for the Mets for decades since.
So the idea that Keith, a highly intelligent man, should be punished for wasting the absolute prime of his great career on cocaine seems fair, even though he'd be clearly over the Hall of Fame benchmark of 60 Wins Above Replacement if he never heard of cocaine. He's at 60.3 right now. He'd probably be at 65+ if he'd never touched coke.
So if eventually Hernandez gets into HoF, that would seem fair too, but I also don't mind him being made to suffer in the meantime.
I haven't been paying close attention, but I haven't heard of KH whining about not being in the HoF. So, I'm not averse to him being forgiven either.
I thought his problem was heroin.
Keith was famously one of the Pittsburgh 7, which was a cocaine trial.
If Steve is reading this, I am curious what he thinks of Dave Parker getting inducted into Cooperstown this summer. After all, he and Hernandez received the same punishment from Peter Ueberroth for the same offense, both were traded when the cocaine started to negatively affect their play, and both had a career renaissance which included winning another World Series. Having said that, while Parker may have had more swagger at the time, I would say that by modern metrics Hernandez was the superior player, and it's not even particularly close.
Of the Pittsburgh 7, the least-impactful player was Dale Berra, whose dad was fired 16 games into their tenure together with the Yankees in 1985. Dale started 8 of those games at third base, where he made 4 errors.
Lonnie Smith was a solid player who won three rings with three different teams
It's sad, the '86 Mets were the greatest team of all time. I used to go watch them during spring training at Al Lang Stadium when I was in college in Sarasota. Me and a couple hundred geezers. We kvetched in the stands about skin cancer, and Strawberry and Gooden and Carter were golden. Before hitchiking back to college (God forbid) I sometimes had a single beer with some of the players at the bar near the stadium. I'm in NO way a flashy female (there were plenty of golddiggers and hookers), and I was a kid, and they were all perfect gentlemen. I'd call my dad and tell him I'd just been talking to Dwight or Darryl, and he was amazed. Gooden was just a baby. He looked about 15. I don't remember Hernandez. I ran into Lenny Dykstra in a mall in Atlanta years later, and he seemed insane. Strawberry and Gooden have tried to get their acts together in Tampa for a long time. Sad, but they do try.
> The 1980s Mets played better baseball after Keith Hernandez replaced Dave Kingman at first base.
LOL this is quite the understatement! As an aside, Kingman's backup at first base was none other than iSteve Hall of Famer Rusty Staub.
I will say that I have never heard Keith complain about his lack of support in Hall of Fame voting. I will also say that growing up in New Jersey in the 80s, if you told me that neither Keith Hernandez nor Don Mattingly would even come close to getting into the Hall of Fame, I would have called bullshit, yet here we are...
Nah, these folks don't notice that they don't notice. Have you seen the video of these European dopes who tried to march through Egypt to rescue the Gazans? Do you know how many layers of things you need to keep from you brain to do that--and to react the way they did when they were stopped?
Ouch! A green-haired, me-too old fish without bicycle. It's gotta hurt to get bought-and-sold-out so cheap. Gertrude Stein did HER no favors. Rock on, MisterSteve.
I live in the French Quarter in New Orleans and yesterday outside my balcony there were three separate groups over a period of a few hours: Naked Bike Riders, Palestine protesters and a Pride Parade. If you have a choice to see one, go for the Bike Riders.
Once you've seen one naked bike rider, haven't you seen them all?
"Noticing" is a pre-viral title, works well enough for the target audience, I suppose. Kings, on the other hand, get the juices flowing on both sides, i.e., are viral (and perhaps not coincidentally are virile). You can't judge a book by its cover, but The Man Who Would Be King will always outsell The Man Who Would Notice.
True.
Kipling is more awesome than I am.
Ah, it was easier then. And a lot of it rhymed.
To be obscure, it would be funny to have a lefty protesting Sam Francis with a picture of Francis on a posterboard with his face crossed out like Steve Sailer's. Francis died in 2005.