no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
Very typical story on the south side of Chicago and nearby suburbs. I lived in Dolton from ‘74-’94. Fortunately the Pope is somewhat insulated from the inevitable racial pot-stirring stories as he’s half creole. The press hasn't picked up on that yet, but I imagine we’ll be seeing the “first black pope” stories soon.
One of my relatives was a police beat reporter with City News Bureau in the early 1970s, covering crime on the south side of Chicago and adjoining suburbs -- Dolton, South Holland, Calumet City, Harvey, etc. He had some wild stories about the crime accompanying black encroachment on these white suburbs.
Looking back, it really seems like it was an invasion, with the criminals being the initial shock troops, disrupting life, inflicting fear and uncertainty, forcing the inhabitants to retreat slowly, then flee for their lives as waves of the enemy swarmed over them.
Humans overestimate differences based on superficial characteristics because brains are lazy.
Chicago’s problems with skin color, real estate, and crime were are created by people who felt making money was more important than fairness. Redlining, contract buying, segregation all created these problems. They aren’t problems intrinsic to skin color.
Differences in criminal behavior between races of the order of 20-30 are not “superficial.” The black underclass (yes, a small number of the overall population) creates chaos for all people they encounter, including blacks. Pointing this out is not lazy, and blaming it on segregation defies the facts and data.
I see the crime statistics that you are referring to as also superficial. Below those are a myriad of causative facts. Our brains are lazy so we will stick with the superficial. But if you want to see things as they are, you have to look a little deeper.
Take the perspective of the leader of these places and people and not that of the frightened tribal subject.
Redlining and contract buying were also causative and antagonistic. Lead is also a related environmental factor. Respect yourself enough that you feel you are more than a victim, but a free-thinking person of intelligence, integrity, and agency, who has the guts to look at the problem and offer honest solutions, and not knee-jerk parroting of dumbed down, simplistic rhetoric.
I’m amazed at how far people will bend over backwards to not acknowledge reality in order to diagnose, let alone solve the problem. Redlining, blockbusting, lead….lol…anything but the truth.
If you think crime data are superficial, we disagree about the meanings of words and can't have an intelligent discussion--you can refute any point I make by calling it superficial.
If you think segregation, environment, and redlining are the causes of the ills in black society, then answer this: Why, in the 1950's and early 1960's, were blacks better off than today by virtually every *social* measure (intact family unit, education, crime, anti-social behavior)?
People are free to relocate any time they want. Nobody wants to stay in a neighborhood that has deteriorated into a “blackboard Jungle”. Common sense….
> Humans overestimate differences based on superficial characteristics because brains are lazy.
Chicago’s problems with skin color, real estate, and crime were are created by people who felt making money was more important than fairness. Redlining, contract buying, segregation all created these problems. They aren’t problems intrinsic to skin color.<
LOL. Talk about "lazy" "brains".
BTW, this use of "skin color" has been a rather obvious but fairly successful propaganda technique but the cleverer minoritarian anti-biology types. It's meant to serve as a cutesy proxy for "race", while inherently doing the semantic heavy lifting that race is only "skin deep", trivial and nothing inside is different. Minoritarian ideology does have some clever--and evil--propagandists.
I could have--by random mutation--gotten the old African variants of the heavy hitters of the Euro lightening regime--SLC24A5, SLC45A2, HERC2/OCA2, TYR--and i'd still be a "white guy", though a damn funny looking one.
While I personally do not find blacks a particularly attractive race, the key issue with blacks is not "skin color" or even their exterior appearance. It is their behavior. Especially criminality but also general disorder, non-compliance, hostility--all rooted in their overall package of mental traits: low IQ, low conscientiousness, low-cooperativity, high time-preference, high aggression.
For people--like me--whose ancestors did temperate zone farming, had to work hard, figure things out, plan for the future and often cooperate with their neighbors, and appreciate our people's civilized cooperative vibe, the black package of essentially in-your-face asshole traits is unpleasant to be around. Even beyond the reality that racist violence will likely be directed against me simply for not being black.
Nope, race is not "skin deep" but deeply rooted and important in determining how people behave and what sort of societies they create.
Did you ever live in a city or town that had rapid demographic transformation? I can tell you that black and white cultures are very different. I lived it.
Whoa, talk about a false cause fallacy, this is one for the ages. Redlining was segregation, basically. Not allowing certain people to buy homes in certain districts would only "create" a crime problem if "living with people who look like you" (black) breeds crime.
Professional class blacks and black-identified mulattoes tend to emphasize racial kidnapping or cultural appropriation in which whites with some "black blood" and cultured Mulatto Elites are claimed as "proof" that blacks are not genetically inferior. The assumption is that claiming those very non-black people as "black" will make everyone forget about the behavior of the real blacks in the black criminal underclass.
How does having one creole grand parent make someone "half creole." In 2025, the college admission counsellors would advise claiming to be black based upon the ancestry.
"But the marketing department knows that the NYT’s 11-million paying subscribers tend to value highly having their pre-existing worldviews about who are the Good Guys and who are the Bad Guys affirmed. "
Was thinking about which sources exhibit considerable media influence at large upon the US...
While the Paper of Record, the New York Times can boast of 11 million paying subscribers, Spotify's Joe Rogan can boast of having 14.5 paying subscribers as the Podcast of record (and that's not counting other sources where his influence reaches, e.g. Youtube, and Social Media at large).
In the 21st century, compared to other sources (like the internet) sorry to say, but perhaps the Old Grey Lady's direct influence on American culture at large has been on the wane. 11 million subs is still formidable. But as the NYT has been in existence since 1851 it's not really a big surprise that it has that many subscribers, especially since it has directly influenced US leaders and intellectuals for well over a century, while Joe Rogan has been around for little over a decade (in the podcasting world).
Regarding where people get their news from, the 21st century is shaping up to be more of an online, podcasting, social media, while traditional forms of media (NYT, WaPo etc) are being consigned to relative obscurity. There will come a day when those 20 somethings are in the halls of power--they won't directly care so much what the New York Times has to say about them, but podcasters like Joe Rogan? Whose influence reaches a wide demographic of people? Now THAT's influence on the culture indeed.
After all, liberals and Democrats alike weren't angry over the NYT's coverage of President Trump's 2024 campaign; they WERE very very angry over his appearance on Joe Rogan (which garnered ca. 50 million views on Youtube alone). But then the NYT isn't really so crude and crass as to directly worry about such things as finances, money, their paper's bottom line, etc etc. Must be nice not to have to care directly or indirectly about riches, especially as the NYT is headquartered in the US, one of the world's preeminent capitalist nations.
Much secondary reporting such as Steve and Joe Rogan feeds off stories originally from the NYT or WaPo or the WSJ. There will always be a market for that primary reporting.
Yes there will always be a market for that reporting, HOWEVER, the direct influence of the NYT, especially during the age of the Internet and the decades to come, will slowly become irrelevant at best and ignored at worst.
Joe Rogan doesn't directly feed off of NYT stories. It can even be debatable that he's a constant and consistent reader of the NYT; meaning, he tends to get his information from other sources and more and more that involves non-traditional news outlets such as stories that originated online.
Regarding reporting original news and analyzing it for public consumption, in 2025 the NYT cannot compete with the many sources online.
Partly this is because as a part of the traditional, corporate media, the NYT is still stuck in the mid 20th century way of doing things. The "experts" decide exactly WHAT news "Is Fit to Print" and then they officially and publicly publish that for the proles to digest.
Perhaps one of the most interesting debates on this very aspect of news, information, experts, etc. occurred during the Smith vs. Murray debate last month. It has opened up the floodgates of a larger debate: which sources and "experts" shall have the sole right to determine what news "is fit to print" for public consumption? And WHO exactly qualifies as an "expert" of news for public consumption? Does working at the NYT automatically guarantee that said individual is a 100% "expert" and thus should be adhered to no matter what? AND...will non-traditional media be accorded the same respect in the public sphere as the traditional corporate media? Or will sources outside the traditional media be relegated as "you're not an "expert" and thus your words don't count for Jack Diddly."
In 2025, which side will carry the day? Will it b the corporate media, or sources that originate from non-traditional media outlets such as the Rogan podcast (and social media, and internet at large)?
If the people at large get to cast their opinions as actual votes in the court of public opinion, then traditional media like the NYT lost quite badly in this debate. Their day has long past. With the coming decades, as the 20 somethings age and some of them enter the halls of popular influence as well as government power, it will become more obvious.
Fact: In 2025, daily newspaper readership is down among Americans. Those under 35 or 40 it is down to an even lower level. Eventually this will encompass the NYT as well and regulate it to a niche market. Perhaps one might make the case that the NYT was never really intended for mass consumption like other daily newspapers. Though as its often self touted moniker America's Paper of Record, who is to really care if no one bothers to read it?
Tomorrow's generation that wield the power won't be loyal NYT subscribers; they'll most likely be ingesting podcasts from sources such as Joe Rogan.
No I did hear you, and my point would be that like the NYT, Rogan IS a conveyor of information that is relevant to people in 2025.
Again, the traditional, corporate media will look down and thumb their noses at the likes of podcasters but facts aren't caring about the feelings: In 2025 and for the successive decades to come, most news, information, etc will be obtained thru non-traditional sources like the NYT and by way of online sources such as podcasts.
There is a specific REASON WHY the NYT was almost bankrupt about a decade ago before a billionaire rescued it. Because it wasn't relevant in the 21st century as a means of delivering news and information.
About 60 or so yrs ago, TV reporting started this downward trend of newspapers being the dominant source of information for Americans. Over the last 15 yrs or so the internet has made it abundantly clear that newspapers aren't anywhere close to being THE primary source for where adult Americans get their news from. Eventually, this is going to be reflected EVEN AMONG the offspring of the elite.
No matter what anyone thinks about President Trump, it is an accurate statement that his youngest son Barron (age 19) would be considered a part of the top 1% in America. I daresay that young Barron isn't pouring over the pages of the NYT on a daily basis. This isn't a flippant remark. In his book "Noticing", Steve makes mention that he was reading National Review in his early or mid teenage years.
The fact remains, that as a member of the top 1% American Elite, the likes of Barron Trump won't be a loyal NYT or WaPo consumer. In point of fact we happen to know that it was BARRON who recommended that Trump should give a full interview to sources where members of his generation get their news and information from--Andrew Shultz, Theo Vonn....
And Joe Rogan.
The idea that Rogan ISN'T a major source of news and information in 2025 America for millions of adults, frankly, is ludicrous. These young adults will become the adults of tomorrow. And the NYT won't be a major source of information for their news, much less in forming their opinions.
The Washington Post is already pretty irrelevant at this point in time. The New York Times is more like a baseball star that is fading fast, can't hit the fastball and a liability in the field.
The NYT carries a much wider range of news than any podcaster could, even if they wanted to. The reason to read the Times is not because the news is better (in the sense of being less biased), but because there's more of it. If you like being well informed about what's going on in the world, all over the world, there aren't many choices. Once you've covered that, you can delve more deeply into sources that will give you a fuller picture on the issues of particular interest to you.
Joe Rogan does very little reading of any sources. It is one of the issues with much of the media. The people commenting on the news, current events, or culture know little about it except the headlines and refuse to try to gain any knowledge.
Steve hasn’t mentioned it in a while and it was usually in reference to Oak Park’s illegal but effective racial quota system, but there is essentially a fairly low percentage of black residents a neighborhood can absorb before a rapid decline and demographic shift occurs. Howard Stern’s sorta autobiographical movie Private Parts humorously depicts his Long Island town undergoing that while he was in middle and high school.
Driving through the South Side of Chicago or Detroit is incredibly depressing because the signs of their past glory as vibrant urban neighborhoods are still to be seen amongst the brick and mortar as well has human wreckage there today.
At any rate no one is supposed to openly discuss the lengths people will go to avoid living near large concentrations of blacks, but it’s plain as day when it comes to real estate pricing and which public schools parents of all stripes deem acceptable.
> Driving through the South Side of Chicago or Detroit is incredibly depressing because the signs of their past glory as vibrant urban neighborhoods are still to be seen amongst the brick and mortar as well has human wreckage there today.
In this video, the father says, "it was a nice neighborhood because we gave a shit." This idea poverty causes these dirty neighborhoods is such a lie. I replied to a friend about this lie, "do you think when Japan was dirt poor, it was dirty?" No way. If you look on youtube you can see downtown Myanmar/Burma. Poor country, nicer that these black neighborhoods.
As with a town or city so with countries, and much of the Anglosphere and the west seems insistent on stress testing just how much absorption it can take
We all know that, that is why they use euphemisms like "good schools" to signal to Whites that the area doesn't have a lot of blacks. I tell people to look for a high school with a crappy basketball team.
When Nikole Hannah-Jones was writing on education before becoming an arm chair historian, she noted that the first thing most white parents do if given access to websites or databases on schools is look up the demographics.
Yep. Moving to Washington DC to serve Barack Obama. No to Prince George's County. No to Charles County. No to Alexandria City schools. No to Arlington County schools. No to much of Montgomery County schools. No to Washington DC schools. No to parts of Fairfax County schools. Loudoun County schools are safe. How much is the tuition at St. Albans, dear?
I heard an example that fits liberals better. A two profession couple purchase a cape or craftsman home in the Del Ray neighborhood of the City of Alexandria. In a few years, they have a child and when the child nears school age the choices are: local public elementary that is 60% Central American immigrants, the local Catholic elementary at $15k per year, the local Episcopal school at $30k, or moving to Loudoun County or Great Falls, VA.
"Joe Rogan does very little reading of any sources. It is one of the issues with much of the media. The people commenting on the news, current events, or culture know little about it except the headlines and refuse to try to gain any knowledge."
Ironically this was one of the issues exposed during the Murray vs Smith debate on Rogan. So called "experts" really aren't all that regarding what they cover. Lazy slipshod reporting would appear to be the order of the day in 2025.
No recovery possible at the tipping point of 30%. Shame, really.
The early new residents (Steve's "black a block") have it great for just a very few years: nice houses in beautiful neighborhoods, great neighbors, and abundant and functional services (schools, stores, kids mowing grass/shoveling snow, etc.). But those infamous cousins and dysfunctional family and friends from the projects and previously "tipped" areas just can't be shaken. They come along for the ride and predate on the changing neighborhoods, gestating long-term degradation of residential quality of life and spurring the flight of those with the means to do so. Once 25-30% is reached, the place goes into free-fall and cannot ever be recovered.
I make it a point to visit Detroit once every 10 years to see for myself beneath the veneer of downtown redevelopment. Very little change for the better over the last 6 tours.
Very true. Black migration to Georgia has made that state into a battleground state. Governor Kemp has chickened out running against the Democrat 2026 for the Senate race.. Losing would end Kemp's career.
This is the real question. Will those upscale. Lacks keep voting Democratic or at least acknowledge demographics in a neighborhood matter? Nope. Will keep voting for more of the same.
A country the size of America is so big. For instance, my county of Hampshire WV is less than one percent black and I can go for weeks without seeing a black person. And they're not loud and brash.
America has approximately 3400 counties and independent cities. I wonder how many are less than 1 % black. I bet a lot from Maine to Minnesota to Montana. I wonder how many are less than 10% black. I would guess that 2000 American counties are less than 10% black.
That’s all certainly true, but I’d argue that local populations affect local quality of life, but national populations affect national quality of life. The US has utterly transformed its notions of equal rights for all, our employment policies, our college admissions, its notion of rights of free association, all due to 12% of the national population.
The first blacks into a neighborhood pay full value for the house. Then they watch the value of that house decline as the neighborhood declines. I never understood why they’d want to do that.
I've mentioned it in this section before, but I learned this story in a very backwards way, to some extent from Steve, even though I grew up in the suburban aftermath. My dad was a gregarious man and everywhere we went he ran into some guy he knew from high school, even though he went to high school on the south side and we were now twenty miles north of Chicago. Even mom's neighborhood from the north side gave the impression of having all decided as one to pick up to move to the same suburb right before we were born. For what reason? No one even mentioned that it was something deserving of an explanation. No one talked about it.
Other strange memories. We lived in a super safe suburb and yet when we were small dad installed a bizarre security gate at the top of the stairs. A few years later I became aware that dad owned a firearm (which was not, shall we say, cultural appropriate).
Years later mom said something about a cousin who had a store on maybe Maxwell street that blacks destroyed even though, as she said, her cousin always made an effort to stock styles that they liked.
What did Cordelia say about the former private RC chapel at Brideshead? "The light in the Tabernacle was put out, and it became just an oddly decorated room." or something like that.
The Catholic school across from me just cut down more of their trees, so I can see more of their modern buildings, which they keep making uglier somehow. The turreted Victorian mansion they started in is long gone.
The new pope was raised about three miles from where I was living as a teenager. So, although an atheist, I feel a sense of affinity toward him. The tough, hardscrabble industrial south suburbs of Chicago not the tony North Shore. My town, Harvey, like Dolton and most of the south suburbs of Chicago rapidly went from majority white to majority black starting in the 1970’s as many blacks themselves fled the violence of the city.
On X, now without censorship thanks to Elon Musk, out of control violence has become standard fodder for ridicule with blacks typically being the most violent group depicted. Unfortunately, the stereotype of black violence is rooted in reality. Despite being ignored by mainstream media for years, where white people decide to live, shop, vacation and even if they are willing to use public transit has been for decades largely based on avoiding large groups of black people because of their perceived and actual tendency to engage in violence.
Steve never seems to think about the effects in 2025 of white flight on politics or culture. People who few up in neighborhoods such as Dolton who are now in the core white elderly Republican cohort grew up in neighborhoods and cities that they would never tolerate their children or grandchildren living in. They oppose DEI and immigration (the issues that put Trump in the White House) because they have first hand experience on the long term effects and how it takes choices away from them.
I'm optimistic about Leo. We aren't going to fix these chaotic population transfers without someone who has true compassion for all involved, and people like that are rare. Pope Leo seems to be one of these rare people.
I don't think so. These migrations are pushed from the top down, for example by the Arab Spring our state dept. unleashed, and by Mayorkas et al during the Biden administration.
He seems like the type to push back against this kind of stuff to prevent it from happening in the first place. Its hard for us here to take that kind of view because we're the little people and all we see is what's forced on us, so we react.
I honestly think Leo will have us in mind as well as the migrants, and since lasting solutions can't be one-sided that's a good thing.
Yes, he's an actor on the world stage. And I have to believe he feels compassion for patriotic Americans like his brothers and late father.
Incidentally, I wonder how governor Pritzker feels about being upstaged by another Illinoisan, and one who highly disapproves of trans ideology to boot. I somewhat doubt the elevation of cardinal Rob Prevost was entirely pleasing to Mr. Pritzker.
As an acolyte of Pope Francis I, I expect Pope Leo XIV to continue the crackdown on the Latin Mass which is the only item that interests me. What Pope Leo XIV thinks about immigration or certain wars or capitalism or abortion is irrelevant. Nobody cares about Leo XIV's opinion on most things.
It's been a long time since I've read "Studs Lonigan" by James Farrell which takes place in the 1920s but Lonigan's southside neighborhood is transformed and the Irish of the southside of Chicago move farther south and abandon the Catholic church built early in the decade.
Dolton has many similarities that my old hometown of Seabrook shares. White flight. Demographic revolution. What was saddest to me was seeing old institutions like favorite bars and restaurants close down or, in one case, move to Crofton, MD, a white flight outpost in western Anne Arundel County. One difference is that Dolton's housing prices are much lower than Seabrook's. I looked up my old house in Seabrook, a handsome brick house, and it is listed by Zillow at near $500,000. What Seabrook has that Dolton doesn't is a huge federal bureaucracy with a huge black work force. Trump and DOGE is a stiletto aimed at the jugular vein of middle-class blacks in the Washington metro area.
DuVal High School is 51% black and 41% Hispanic and trending Hispanic. Wait another decade or two and Seabrook will be majority Hispanic with blacks experiencing flight to further out neighborhoods.
DuVal is about one percent white. Those poor kids. I'd guess that the black boys fight over access to the white girls.
Most of the houses in Seabrook built before 1980 are well-made, a lot of brick houses. I don't blame Hispanics for wanting to live in Seabrook. I would guess that in five years DuVal will do well in soccer and poorly in basketball and football.
You are probably right. Thirty years ago I remember reading about a murder in Glenarden MD. Glenarden has been virtually all-black since it was built in the 60s. A black man had gotten drunk and killed his white Kansas wife. Five years previously, the husband's black son from another relationship had killed the wife's white son from a previous marriage.
A bunch of my ancestors moved across the ocean 400-160 years ago. My parents both were on a few different Iowa farmsteads growing up and a few different states as adults. I've lived in six different states (Trump 106-Harris 31) and one Canadian province--none of them my actual family heimat of Iowa. (And i'm not even particularly mobile. I managed to live in one house in the Seattle burbs for 25 years taking all three kids from birth to heading off to UW.)
White people can move.
The problem is no matter where whites move, we can never just be left alone. Under the minoritarian ideology, whites--white gentiles--are not entitled to their own stuff--neighborhoods, schools, universities, businesses, even country clubs and most importantly their *nations*. Any attempt by productive whites to build and enjoy their own stuff, to govern themselves according to their own normie "white bread" norms and values is ... "racism!", "anti-Semitism", "Islamophobia", "xenophobia", "homophobia", "transphobia" .... some sort of "holocaust", "Nazi" stuff. For the minoirtarian whites exist for the purpose of looting by virtuous minorities. We are essentially serfs, essential serfs--how good would the looting be without us?--but serfs.
Moving we can do. But just--for once--how about you don't follow us?
The United States is very large and large parts are sparsely populated.
If I wanted - which I don’t - to limit my interactions to my co-ethnics well then there is certainly a place somewhere in the US where this can be done.
When I took journalism in high school, my teacher was big on the inverted pyramid, but even then I recognized that newspapers didn't strictly follow it.
Also, apropos of nothing, I never knew where Calumet City was compared to Chicago proper; I only knew it as the location of the orphanage in The Blues Brothers
NYT reporters are weirdly Straussian .
Pope Leo should take these reporters out to the old neighborhood https://youtu.be/GI7YzBE5zAo?t=28
They could probably get their nails done or have their hair braided.
Or buy vapes or lottery tickets.
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME
SAD!
4chan is down the hall and to the righ..,oops 4chan is down.
nice try (((steve))).
justy kidding. YOU'RE TOTALLY PATHETIC!
SAD!
Vous etes, Omar
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME
SAD!
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "ovendodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME.
SAD!
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME.
SAD!
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME.
SAD!
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME.
SAD!
no one who isn't what the real pope, mel gibson, has called an "oven dodger" has ever used the gay and retarded non-word "straussian" except to ridicule (((people like you))).
steve has refused to admit he's a jew for decades.
this is LYING! especially for an HBDer.
STILL WAITING FOR STEVE'S 23&ME.
SAD!
Very typical story on the south side of Chicago and nearby suburbs. I lived in Dolton from ‘74-’94. Fortunately the Pope is somewhat insulated from the inevitable racial pot-stirring stories as he’s half creole. The press hasn't picked up on that yet, but I imagine we’ll be seeing the “first black pope” stories soon.
One of my relatives was a police beat reporter with City News Bureau in the early 1970s, covering crime on the south side of Chicago and adjoining suburbs -- Dolton, South Holland, Calumet City, Harvey, etc. He had some wild stories about the crime accompanying black encroachment on these white suburbs.
Looking back, it really seems like it was an invasion, with the criminals being the initial shock troops, disrupting life, inflicting fear and uncertainty, forcing the inhabitants to retreat slowly, then flee for their lives as waves of the enemy swarmed over them.
Humans overestimate differences based on superficial characteristics because brains are lazy.
Chicago’s problems with skin color, real estate, and crime were are created by people who felt making money was more important than fairness. Redlining, contract buying, segregation all created these problems. They aren’t problems intrinsic to skin color.
Differences in criminal behavior between races of the order of 20-30 are not “superficial.” The black underclass (yes, a small number of the overall population) creates chaos for all people they encounter, including blacks. Pointing this out is not lazy, and blaming it on segregation defies the facts and data.
I see the crime statistics that you are referring to as also superficial. Below those are a myriad of causative facts. Our brains are lazy so we will stick with the superficial. But if you want to see things as they are, you have to look a little deeper.
Take the perspective of the leader of these places and people and not that of the frightened tribal subject.
Redlining and contract buying were also causative and antagonistic. Lead is also a related environmental factor. Respect yourself enough that you feel you are more than a victim, but a free-thinking person of intelligence, integrity, and agency, who has the guts to look at the problem and offer honest solutions, and not knee-jerk parroting of dumbed down, simplistic rhetoric.
I’m amazed at how far people will bend over backwards to not acknowledge reality in order to diagnose, let alone solve the problem. Redlining, blockbusting, lead….lol…anything but the truth.
Reality disorients lefties because it goes against their egalitarian preconceptions. Reality proves these preconceptions wrong.
If you think crime data are superficial, we disagree about the meanings of words and can't have an intelligent discussion--you can refute any point I make by calling it superficial.
If you think segregation, environment, and redlining are the causes of the ills in black society, then answer this: Why, in the 1950's and early 1960's, were blacks better off than today by virtually every *social* measure (intact family unit, education, crime, anti-social behavior)?
They benefited from segregation.
Ha ha, the lead ruse. Lead causes black males to join vicious gangs and shoot each other on street corners! GOT IT!
People are free to relocate any time they want. Nobody wants to stay in a neighborhood that has deteriorated into a “blackboard Jungle”. Common sense….
> Humans overestimate differences based on superficial characteristics because brains are lazy.
Chicago’s problems with skin color, real estate, and crime were are created by people who felt making money was more important than fairness. Redlining, contract buying, segregation all created these problems. They aren’t problems intrinsic to skin color.<
LOL. Talk about "lazy" "brains".
BTW, this use of "skin color" has been a rather obvious but fairly successful propaganda technique but the cleverer minoritarian anti-biology types. It's meant to serve as a cutesy proxy for "race", while inherently doing the semantic heavy lifting that race is only "skin deep", trivial and nothing inside is different. Minoritarian ideology does have some clever--and evil--propagandists.
I could have--by random mutation--gotten the old African variants of the heavy hitters of the Euro lightening regime--SLC24A5, SLC45A2, HERC2/OCA2, TYR--and i'd still be a "white guy", though a damn funny looking one.
While I personally do not find blacks a particularly attractive race, the key issue with blacks is not "skin color" or even their exterior appearance. It is their behavior. Especially criminality but also general disorder, non-compliance, hostility--all rooted in their overall package of mental traits: low IQ, low conscientiousness, low-cooperativity, high time-preference, high aggression.
For people--like me--whose ancestors did temperate zone farming, had to work hard, figure things out, plan for the future and often cooperate with their neighbors, and appreciate our people's civilized cooperative vibe, the black package of essentially in-your-face asshole traits is unpleasant to be around. Even beyond the reality that racist violence will likely be directed against me simply for not being black.
Nope, race is not "skin deep" but deeply rooted and important in determining how people behave and what sort of societies they create.
Did you ever live in a city or town that had rapid demographic transformation? I can tell you that black and white cultures are very different. I lived it.
Ditto for other races too.
Whoa, talk about a false cause fallacy, this is one for the ages. Redlining was segregation, basically. Not allowing certain people to buy homes in certain districts would only "create" a crime problem if "living with people who look like you" (black) breeds crime.
Is that what you meant?
Per Glen Loury, the majority of homeowners in redlined area were white.
What else you got?
https://open.substack.com/pub/glennloury/p/the-truth-about-redlining?r=qsdv3&utm_medium=ios
Skin color has nothing to do with it. It’s the whole package.
If you're not from the South Side of Chicago, I suggest you refrain from entering into that debate.
Rod Dreher also mentioned it, so it must have been reported somewhere.
You haven't been paying attention, the press has already picked up on "person of color":
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/world/europe/pope-leo-xiv-creole-ancestry.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/pope-leo-creole-new-orleans.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/10/us/pope-creole-new-orleans-records.html
Archived link: https://archive.is/tIRbP
"See Historical Records Documenting the Pope’s Creole Roots in New Orleans"
Professional class blacks and black-identified mulattoes tend to emphasize racial kidnapping or cultural appropriation in which whites with some "black blood" and cultured Mulatto Elites are claimed as "proof" that blacks are not genetically inferior. The assumption is that claiming those very non-black people as "black" will make everyone forget about the behavior of the real blacks in the black criminal underclass.
How does having one creole grand parent make someone "half creole." In 2025, the college admission counsellors would advise claiming to be black based upon the ancestry.
His maternal grandparents, Joseph Martinez and Louise Baquié, were identified as Black or “mulatto” in early 20th-century U.S. census records.
Still does not equal half black.
Quadroon or octaroon
Habemus nigrum?
"But the marketing department knows that the NYT’s 11-million paying subscribers tend to value highly having their pre-existing worldviews about who are the Good Guys and who are the Bad Guys affirmed. "
Was thinking about which sources exhibit considerable media influence at large upon the US...
While the Paper of Record, the New York Times can boast of 11 million paying subscribers, Spotify's Joe Rogan can boast of having 14.5 paying subscribers as the Podcast of record (and that's not counting other sources where his influence reaches, e.g. Youtube, and Social Media at large).
In the 21st century, compared to other sources (like the internet) sorry to say, but perhaps the Old Grey Lady's direct influence on American culture at large has been on the wane. 11 million subs is still formidable. But as the NYT has been in existence since 1851 it's not really a big surprise that it has that many subscribers, especially since it has directly influenced US leaders and intellectuals for well over a century, while Joe Rogan has been around for little over a decade (in the podcasting world).
Regarding where people get their news from, the 21st century is shaping up to be more of an online, podcasting, social media, while traditional forms of media (NYT, WaPo etc) are being consigned to relative obscurity. There will come a day when those 20 somethings are in the halls of power--they won't directly care so much what the New York Times has to say about them, but podcasters like Joe Rogan? Whose influence reaches a wide demographic of people? Now THAT's influence on the culture indeed.
After all, liberals and Democrats alike weren't angry over the NYT's coverage of President Trump's 2024 campaign; they WERE very very angry over his appearance on Joe Rogan (which garnered ca. 50 million views on Youtube alone). But then the NYT isn't really so crude and crass as to directly worry about such things as finances, money, their paper's bottom line, etc etc. Must be nice not to have to care directly or indirectly about riches, especially as the NYT is headquartered in the US, one of the world's preeminent capitalist nations.
Much secondary reporting such as Steve and Joe Rogan feeds off stories originally from the NYT or WaPo or the WSJ. There will always be a market for that primary reporting.
Yes there will always be a market for that reporting, HOWEVER, the direct influence of the NYT, especially during the age of the Internet and the decades to come, will slowly become irrelevant at best and ignored at worst.
Joe Rogan doesn't directly feed off of NYT stories. It can even be debatable that he's a constant and consistent reader of the NYT; meaning, he tends to get his information from other sources and more and more that involves non-traditional news outlets such as stories that originated online.
Regarding reporting original news and analyzing it for public consumption, in 2025 the NYT cannot compete with the many sources online.
Partly this is because as a part of the traditional, corporate media, the NYT is still stuck in the mid 20th century way of doing things. The "experts" decide exactly WHAT news "Is Fit to Print" and then they officially and publicly publish that for the proles to digest.
Perhaps one of the most interesting debates on this very aspect of news, information, experts, etc. occurred during the Smith vs. Murray debate last month. It has opened up the floodgates of a larger debate: which sources and "experts" shall have the sole right to determine what news "is fit to print" for public consumption? And WHO exactly qualifies as an "expert" of news for public consumption? Does working at the NYT automatically guarantee that said individual is a 100% "expert" and thus should be adhered to no matter what? AND...will non-traditional media be accorded the same respect in the public sphere as the traditional corporate media? Or will sources outside the traditional media be relegated as "you're not an "expert" and thus your words don't count for Jack Diddly."
In 2025, which side will carry the day? Will it b the corporate media, or sources that originate from non-traditional media outlets such as the Rogan podcast (and social media, and internet at large)?
If the people at large get to cast their opinions as actual votes in the court of public opinion, then traditional media like the NYT lost quite badly in this debate. Their day has long past. With the coming decades, as the 20 somethings age and some of them enter the halls of popular influence as well as government power, it will become more obvious.
Fact: In 2025, daily newspaper readership is down among Americans. Those under 35 or 40 it is down to an even lower level. Eventually this will encompass the NYT as well and regulate it to a niche market. Perhaps one might make the case that the NYT was never really intended for mass consumption like other daily newspapers. Though as its often self touted moniker America's Paper of Record, who is to really care if no one bothers to read it?
Tomorrow's generation that wield the power won't be loyal NYT subscribers; they'll most likely be ingesting podcasts from sources such as Joe Rogan.
I’ll say it again, Rogan is NOT a reporter. He’s a podcast host and that’s all.
No I did hear you, and my point would be that like the NYT, Rogan IS a conveyor of information that is relevant to people in 2025.
Again, the traditional, corporate media will look down and thumb their noses at the likes of podcasters but facts aren't caring about the feelings: In 2025 and for the successive decades to come, most news, information, etc will be obtained thru non-traditional sources like the NYT and by way of online sources such as podcasts.
There is a specific REASON WHY the NYT was almost bankrupt about a decade ago before a billionaire rescued it. Because it wasn't relevant in the 21st century as a means of delivering news and information.
About 60 or so yrs ago, TV reporting started this downward trend of newspapers being the dominant source of information for Americans. Over the last 15 yrs or so the internet has made it abundantly clear that newspapers aren't anywhere close to being THE primary source for where adult Americans get their news from. Eventually, this is going to be reflected EVEN AMONG the offspring of the elite.
No matter what anyone thinks about President Trump, it is an accurate statement that his youngest son Barron (age 19) would be considered a part of the top 1% in America. I daresay that young Barron isn't pouring over the pages of the NYT on a daily basis. This isn't a flippant remark. In his book "Noticing", Steve makes mention that he was reading National Review in his early or mid teenage years.
The fact remains, that as a member of the top 1% American Elite, the likes of Barron Trump won't be a loyal NYT or WaPo consumer. In point of fact we happen to know that it was BARRON who recommended that Trump should give a full interview to sources where members of his generation get their news and information from--Andrew Shultz, Theo Vonn....
And Joe Rogan.
The idea that Rogan ISN'T a major source of news and information in 2025 America for millions of adults, frankly, is ludicrous. These young adults will become the adults of tomorrow. And the NYT won't be a major source of information for their news, much less in forming their opinions.
As Yojimbo/Zatoichi, I fully approve this message.
The Washington Post is already pretty irrelevant at this point in time. The New York Times is more like a baseball star that is fading fast, can't hit the fastball and a liability in the field.
I’d say the NYT is also like a baseball star who cheated in his heyday, and had his sins covered up for decades!
The NYT carries a much wider range of news than any podcaster could, even if they wanted to. The reason to read the Times is not because the news is better (in the sense of being less biased), but because there's more of it. If you like being well informed about what's going on in the world, all over the world, there aren't many choices. Once you've covered that, you can delve more deeply into sources that will give you a fuller picture on the issues of particular interest to you.
Joe Rogan does very little reading of any sources. It is one of the issues with much of the media. The people commenting on the news, current events, or culture know little about it except the headlines and refuse to try to gain any knowledge.
Steve reads the NYT and Guardian so we don't have to. I'm not sure what Joe reads
Steve hasn’t mentioned it in a while and it was usually in reference to Oak Park’s illegal but effective racial quota system, but there is essentially a fairly low percentage of black residents a neighborhood can absorb before a rapid decline and demographic shift occurs. Howard Stern’s sorta autobiographical movie Private Parts humorously depicts his Long Island town undergoing that while he was in middle and high school.
Driving through the South Side of Chicago or Detroit is incredibly depressing because the signs of their past glory as vibrant urban neighborhoods are still to be seen amongst the brick and mortar as well has human wreckage there today.
At any rate no one is supposed to openly discuss the lengths people will go to avoid living near large concentrations of blacks, but it’s plain as day when it comes to real estate pricing and which public schools parents of all stripes deem acceptable.
> Driving through the South Side of Chicago or Detroit is incredibly depressing because the signs of their past glory as vibrant urban neighborhoods are still to be seen amongst the brick and mortar as well has human wreckage there today.
This Sopranos scene captures this phenomenon pretty well. AJ is as stupid as ever. https://youtu.be/GI7YzBE5zAo?t=28
In this video, the father says, "it was a nice neighborhood because we gave a shit." This idea poverty causes these dirty neighborhoods is such a lie. I replied to a friend about this lie, "do you think when Japan was dirt poor, it was dirty?" No way. If you look on youtube you can see downtown Myanmar/Burma. Poor country, nicer that these black neighborhoods.
As with a town or city so with countries, and much of the Anglosphere and the west seems insistent on stress testing just how much absorption it can take
As many have noted, the real estate business is mostly centered on helping White people avoid neighborhoods with blacks.
But the real state business cannot admit that. A real estate agent cannot legally comment on racial make up or crime rates.
We all know that, that is why they use euphemisms like "good schools" to signal to Whites that the area doesn't have a lot of blacks. I tell people to look for a high school with a crappy basketball team.
"Good schools" is the lingo. As in Prince George's County MD schools are "not good." DeKalb County GA schools are "not good." Etc., etc.
When Nikole Hannah-Jones was writing on education before becoming an arm chair historian, she noted that the first thing most white parents do if given access to websites or databases on schools is look up the demographics.
Yep. Moving to Washington DC to serve Barack Obama. No to Prince George's County. No to Charles County. No to Alexandria City schools. No to Arlington County schools. No to much of Montgomery County schools. No to Washington DC schools. No to parts of Fairfax County schools. Loudoun County schools are safe. How much is the tuition at St. Albans, dear?
I heard an example that fits liberals better. A two profession couple purchase a cape or craftsman home in the Del Ray neighborhood of the City of Alexandria. In a few years, they have a child and when the child nears school age the choices are: local public elementary that is 60% Central American immigrants, the local Catholic elementary at $15k per year, the local Episcopal school at $30k, or moving to Loudoun County or Great Falls, VA.
"Joe Rogan does very little reading of any sources. It is one of the issues with much of the media. The people commenting on the news, current events, or culture know little about it except the headlines and refuse to try to gain any knowledge."
Ironically this was one of the issues exposed during the Murray vs Smith debate on Rogan. So called "experts" really aren't all that regarding what they cover. Lazy slipshod reporting would appear to be the order of the day in 2025.
My black broker in Bed-Stuy did! When I mentioned the crime stats to her, she said, Oh they're just interested in killing each other -- not you.
The problem is that they are such poor shots that even if they aren't shooting at you, you can still get hit
No recovery possible at the tipping point of 30%. Shame, really.
The early new residents (Steve's "black a block") have it great for just a very few years: nice houses in beautiful neighborhoods, great neighbors, and abundant and functional services (schools, stores, kids mowing grass/shoveling snow, etc.). But those infamous cousins and dysfunctional family and friends from the projects and previously "tipped" areas just can't be shaken. They come along for the ride and predate on the changing neighborhoods, gestating long-term degradation of residential quality of life and spurring the flight of those with the means to do so. Once 25-30% is reached, the place goes into free-fall and cannot ever be recovered.
I make it a point to visit Detroit once every 10 years to see for myself beneath the veneer of downtown redevelopment. Very little change for the better over the last 6 tours.
I'd say that once the black rate gets to 10 %, a city, town or suburb is doomed. It's just a matter of time.
Check out some of the Atlanta suburbs. The region is a magnet for upscale blacks from all over the USA (and elsewhere).
Very true. Black migration to Georgia has made that state into a battleground state. Governor Kemp has chickened out running against the Democrat 2026 for the Senate race.. Losing would end Kemp's career.
This is the real question. Will those upscale. Lacks keep voting Democratic or at least acknowledge demographics in a neighborhood matter? Nope. Will keep voting for more of the same.
Reagan creamed Mondale in DeKalb in 1984. Forty years later, Kamala Harris crushed Trump in DeKalb.
How about a country?
A country the size of America is so big. For instance, my county of Hampshire WV is less than one percent black and I can go for weeks without seeing a black person. And they're not loud and brash.
America has approximately 3400 counties and independent cities. I wonder how many are less than 1 % black. I bet a lot from Maine to Minnesota to Montana. I wonder how many are less than 10% black. I would guess that 2000 American counties are less than 10% black.
That’s all certainly true, but I’d argue that local populations affect local quality of life, but national populations affect national quality of life. The US has utterly transformed its notions of equal rights for all, our employment policies, our college admissions, its notion of rights of free association, all due to 12% of the national population.
They Passed a Law in' 64 to Help Blacks Hurt Whites Some More. ...to paraphrase Bruce Hornsby"s1986 track "The Way it is "
The first blacks into a neighborhood pay full value for the house. Then they watch the value of that house decline as the neighborhood declines. I never understood why they’d want to do that.
Perhaps because they want to ultimately take over the neighborhood.
A neighborhood can go from the kind of place a future Pope can grow up in to a warzone and the polite thing to do is never mention why
And what is the basis of claiming that Dolton is a warzone?
modus vivendi? modus operandi
I've mentioned it in this section before, but I learned this story in a very backwards way, to some extent from Steve, even though I grew up in the suburban aftermath. My dad was a gregarious man and everywhere we went he ran into some guy he knew from high school, even though he went to high school on the south side and we were now twenty miles north of Chicago. Even mom's neighborhood from the north side gave the impression of having all decided as one to pick up to move to the same suburb right before we were born. For what reason? No one even mentioned that it was something deserving of an explanation. No one talked about it.
Other strange memories. We lived in a super safe suburb and yet when we were small dad installed a bizarre security gate at the top of the stairs. A few years later I became aware that dad owned a firearm (which was not, shall we say, cultural appropriate).
Years later mom said something about a cousin who had a store on maybe Maxwell street that blacks destroyed even though, as she said, her cousin always made an effort to stock styles that they liked.
What did Cordelia say about the former private RC chapel at Brideshead? "The light in the Tabernacle was put out, and it became just an oddly decorated room." or something like that.
The Catholic school across from me just cut down more of their trees, so I can see more of their modern buildings, which they keep making uglier somehow. The turreted Victorian mansion they started in is long gone.
The new pope was raised about three miles from where I was living as a teenager. So, although an atheist, I feel a sense of affinity toward him. The tough, hardscrabble industrial south suburbs of Chicago not the tony North Shore. My town, Harvey, like Dolton and most of the south suburbs of Chicago rapidly went from majority white to majority black starting in the 1970’s as many blacks themselves fled the violence of the city.
On X, now without censorship thanks to Elon Musk, out of control violence has become standard fodder for ridicule with blacks typically being the most violent group depicted. Unfortunately, the stereotype of black violence is rooted in reality. Despite being ignored by mainstream media for years, where white people decide to live, shop, vacation and even if they are willing to use public transit has been for decades largely based on avoiding large groups of black people because of their perceived and actual tendency to engage in violence.
That’s the story of the pope’s and my hometowns.
The Internet is adept at showing the violent proclivities of America's favorite minority.
Apparently the Pope's brother Lou is extremely maga.
Unfortunately, Pope Leo XIV has had little contact with his knowledgeable and wise older brother for about fifty years.
Steve never seems to think about the effects in 2025 of white flight on politics or culture. People who few up in neighborhoods such as Dolton who are now in the core white elderly Republican cohort grew up in neighborhoods and cities that they would never tolerate their children or grandchildren living in. They oppose DEI and immigration (the issues that put Trump in the White House) because they have first hand experience on the long term effects and how it takes choices away from them.
I'm optimistic about Leo. We aren't going to fix these chaotic population transfers without someone who has true compassion for all involved, and people like that are rare. Pope Leo seems to be one of these rare people.
Leo seems more likely to accelerate the problem than to repair it.
I don't think so. These migrations are pushed from the top down, for example by the Arab Spring our state dept. unleashed, and by Mayorkas et al during the Biden administration.
He seems like the type to push back against this kind of stuff to prevent it from happening in the first place. Its hard for us here to take that kind of view because we're the little people and all we see is what's forced on us, so we react.
I honestly think Leo will have us in mind as well as the migrants, and since lasting solutions can't be one-sided that's a good thing.
The "compassion"-promoters always seem to have compassion that goes only one way.
And speaking of top-down, Leo is now the head of perhaps the oldest and largest top-down organization in the world.
Yes, he's an actor on the world stage. And I have to believe he feels compassion for patriotic Americans like his brothers and late father.
Incidentally, I wonder how governor Pritzker feels about being upstaged by another Illinoisan, and one who highly disapproves of trans ideology to boot. I somewhat doubt the elevation of cardinal Rob Prevost was entirely pleasing to Mr. Pritzker.
"Migration" means no borders. Why do hardly anyone acknowledge the unprecedented ramifications of that word?
As an acolyte of Pope Francis I, I expect Pope Leo XIV to continue the crackdown on the Latin Mass which is the only item that interests me. What Pope Leo XIV thinks about immigration or certain wars or capitalism or abortion is irrelevant. Nobody cares about Leo XIV's opinion on most things.
Leo seems more likely to accelerate the problem than to repair it.
It's been a long time since I've read "Studs Lonigan" by James Farrell which takes place in the 1920s but Lonigan's southside neighborhood is transformed and the Irish of the southside of Chicago move farther south and abandon the Catholic church built early in the decade.
Dolton has many similarities that my old hometown of Seabrook shares. White flight. Demographic revolution. What was saddest to me was seeing old institutions like favorite bars and restaurants close down or, in one case, move to Crofton, MD, a white flight outpost in western Anne Arundel County. One difference is that Dolton's housing prices are much lower than Seabrook's. I looked up my old house in Seabrook, a handsome brick house, and it is listed by Zillow at near $500,000. What Seabrook has that Dolton doesn't is a huge federal bureaucracy with a huge black work force. Trump and DOGE is a stiletto aimed at the jugular vein of middle-class blacks in the Washington metro area.
DuVal High School is 51% black and 41% Hispanic and trending Hispanic. Wait another decade or two and Seabrook will be majority Hispanic with blacks experiencing flight to further out neighborhoods.
DuVal is about one percent white. Those poor kids. I'd guess that the black boys fight over access to the white girls.
Most of the houses in Seabrook built before 1980 are well-made, a lot of brick houses. I don't blame Hispanics for wanting to live in Seabrook. I would guess that in five years DuVal will do well in soccer and poorly in basketball and football.
The 1% white are probably in mixed marriages where white mom married black step dad. Thus, the white kids are living in black culture constantly.
You are probably right. Thirty years ago I remember reading about a murder in Glenarden MD. Glenarden has been virtually all-black since it was built in the 60s. A black man had gotten drunk and killed his white Kansas wife. Five years previously, the husband's black son from another relationship had killed the wife's white son from a previous marriage.
Be pretty cool if the Pope was in a gang.
Having to move is not the problem.
A bunch of my ancestors moved across the ocean 400-160 years ago. My parents both were on a few different Iowa farmsteads growing up and a few different states as adults. I've lived in six different states (Trump 106-Harris 31) and one Canadian province--none of them my actual family heimat of Iowa. (And i'm not even particularly mobile. I managed to live in one house in the Seattle burbs for 25 years taking all three kids from birth to heading off to UW.)
White people can move.
The problem is no matter where whites move, we can never just be left alone. Under the minoritarian ideology, whites--white gentiles--are not entitled to their own stuff--neighborhoods, schools, universities, businesses, even country clubs and most importantly their *nations*. Any attempt by productive whites to build and enjoy their own stuff, to govern themselves according to their own normie "white bread" norms and values is ... "racism!", "anti-Semitism", "Islamophobia", "xenophobia", "homophobia", "transphobia" .... some sort of "holocaust", "Nazi" stuff. For the minoirtarian whites exist for the purpose of looting by virtuous minorities. We are essentially serfs, essential serfs--how good would the looting be without us?--but serfs.
Moving we can do. But just--for once--how about you don't follow us?
Try Vermont.
The United States is very large and large parts are sparsely populated.
If I wanted - which I don’t - to limit my interactions to my co-ethnics well then there is certainly a place somewhere in the US where this can be done.
When I took journalism in high school, my teacher was big on the inverted pyramid, but even then I recognized that newspapers didn't strictly follow it.
Also, apropos of nothing, I never knew where Calumet City was compared to Chicago proper; I only knew it as the location of the orphanage in The Blues Brothers