If it does turn out that there was a 'conspiracy' of discord trans folx egging each other on, what does this mean for NSA dragnet surveillance?
- End to end encryption works?
- There is too much fedposting to sort the signal from the noise?
Nassim Taleb (of all people) was always in the camp that the mass data schlurping that NSA/Five Eyes did on civilian populations was basically useless due to the inability of computers to actually work out what is useful information. Large language models change this.
Would ChatGPT have known that Robinson Meant Business?
- The Three-Letter Agencies are entirely oriented to prosecuting "election deniers" and "white supremacists". They have no time or interest for actual murder conspiracies, especially one coming from a "protected class".
It took the terrible 7/7 bombings for Britain's MI5 to reorder themselves away from looking at Irish terrorism and threats from abroad, to looking at Islamic terror threats within.
Trump already had a large number of things to use against Democrats and the left over the next three years: Russiagate, the 2020 steal, Biden corruption, mortgage fraud, ActBlue, USAID corruption, and a score of other scandals. The trantifa conspiracy to kill Kirk adds another.
Ha, just came on to post that. If this was all written by some right wing TV writer, it'd get kicked back by the producer as "maybe this is all a bit too on nose".
"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people".
>"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people."
I'll take "Two Things the Prestige Press Will Never Do" for $400, Alex!
Robinson was a game player. They spend their time in games that involve shooting people right and left. One of the shocking things we have learned is his seeming casualness about the whole affair, as if he were only playing a game. The idea that he would easily get away with his crime was utterly unrealistic, again, as if it were in a game.
This is the most boomer comment I've ever seen on substack. DOOM was released in 1993 and any young man alive between 1993 and now has played an FPS at some point.
Every time the authorities reveal evidence, they taint their own court case and give the defendant grounds for appeal. They should try their suspect in the courtroom, not in the media.
That can be a thing, but the text messages Steve quoted are from a courtroom document, so the authorities are indeed trying their suspect in the courtroom.
Waiting for the Frontlash coverage, and the Poe's Law manifestation of a variation of Norm McDonald's famous deadpan satire, " ... because then, the blowback against innocent trantifa, would be absolutely terrible."
We're at this point in the collapse of our civilization due in large part to the media's enthusiastic complicity in said collapse. Asking them to tone it down now is surely...not going to work.
How does the current state of transmania fit into Moldbug's old story about witch-hunting? I remember that he was making an argument about who actually has power, and it was along these lines: if there are a bunch of witch-hunters and they are encouraged and applauded by the powers-that-be, then we can be sure that there aren't any witches (or, at least, that witches have no power). On the other hand, if witch-hunters are persecuted and exiled from polite society, then we can tell that the witches are in charge. During the Biden administration, it seemed that it was fine for the witch-hunters to attack 'white supremacists' with impunity, suggesting that there weren't any powerful actual examples running about. On the other hand, witch-hunters criticizing trannies were regularly kicked to the curb. It now seems, however, that, at least with the trannies, the witch-hunters and the witches might be undergoing a significant power shift.
I never understood his analogy. People didn't think witches were in control of society or even were powerful. They thought they were spoiling cows milk, giving middle aged men impotence and causing bad weather.
Sometimes what looks like the hypersensitive "narcissism of small difference" turns out to have a point. The pro-trans crowd has always tried to argue that their case is a mere logical extension of the one for pluralistic anti-discriminatory acceptance of gays, who at an earlier time made a similar argument about their own acceptance being an extension of the argument for the earlier acceptance of those of other races and creeds and so forth. And from the 30,000 foot distant perspective of a core normie marinated from birth in woke indoctrination, this argument seems at least somewhat plausible.
But from close up, it's clearer that there is something really different going on, and WWT is NOT like WWG, and for all the talk of intetsectional alliance of all the various flavors of sexuality deviation, adding in the T's was more like trying to integrate the sharks into all the other mutually friendly fish groups in Finding Nemo. "Fish are friends! NOT! FOOD!" It can't last; sharks gonna shark. Normies can be convinced that most gays are mostly otherwise normal except for the being gay part and the peculiarities of the gay community subculture, that "baby i was born this way" seems plausible for many of them, and the personal exposures and experiences of normies with gays are not too inconsistent with this social model. But this doesn't hold for transgenderism, where there are MUCH stronger and more prevalent vibes of social contagion, fanatical cultist ideologies, and a high proportion of individuals with clear mental and personality aberrations wholly distinct from matters solely related to sexuality. My guess is that WWT is going to remain a bridge too far, and that to the extent there may arise a resurgence of wokeism, it will tend to deemphasize the issue for some time and converge on a different WW front to pursue.
Very astute observations. Unfortunate that all this wasn't foreseen before turning the world upside-down to accommodate this squarest of pegs. Women are a very poor choice to act as society's gatekeepers. Not their fault, but still...
My favorite Redford anecdote was when he was trying to convince Mike Nichols to give him a role and the latter demurred as he felt the former couldn't believably play a loser. To drive home the point, Nichols said he couldn't picture Redford ever striking out with a woman and Redford seemed unclear on the whole concept!
Thanks. Most of the Redford anecdotes I know are slightly rude about him. I think my bias goes back to "Butch Cassidy" screenwriter William Goldman's famous memoir. Goldman liked Paul Newman more than Redford, and so I've tended to collect anti-Redford anecdotes. But that's unfair to Redford -- OK, he wasn't as great of a guy as Paul Newman, but not many people are.
So if you know any pro-Redford anecdotes suitable for an obituary, let me know.
I'm not sure I've ever heard one either, although I appreciate the tip about Goldman's memoir. Is it the one called Adventures in the Screen Trade? I find it ironic that Goldman felt this way considering both of his Oscars have come from writing movies in which Redford starred.
I will say that the first time Redford directed, not only did he win an Oscar for Best Director, but the movie also won Best Picture, but this doesn't necessarily translate into heartwarming anecdotes. I will say I enjoyed Quiz Show but I haven't seen it in years
Also Goldman's follow up, "Which Lie Did I Tell"? Both books are great. Goldman wrote way more than his share of fine movies. Meanwhile, another well-known book on screenwriting, "Save the Cat!", was written by Blake Snyder, who only had two movies produced, "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" and "Blank Check," both stinkers.
That's another unkind anecdote my brain has filed away about Redford. In the early 1980s, a friend worked in the ER at a Santa Monica hospital. He came over one day to report that Robert Redford had been brought in after sustaining a cut while filming a movie. "The nurses all swarmed around him and you couldn't see him anymore because he's shorter than they are!"
By any objective standard, Redford was a high achiever in multiple (if related) fields. But my brain has unfairly stocked itself with mildly derisive memories about him.
Although the killer wasn't trans, this was Trans Terrorism.
Similarly, many revolutionary 1960s-70s Marxist terrorists, such as Bill Ayers, Carlos the Jackal, & Baader-Meinhoff, were not proletarians but true-blue bourgeoisie. That doesn't mean they weren't Marxist terrorists.
>"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people."
The time has come and they're doing the exact opposite:
It puts me in mind of the Mad Magazine spoof of "The Rifleman". He insists he's a man of peace and his son asks him then why does he kill so many people.
Meanwhile more mainstream leftie normies are struggling for the correct reason that it's okay for them to be kind of happy that Kirk was murdered. The top contenders are that school children also get murdered and some state legislators got murdered in Minnesota and people on the right didn't make as big a deal out of it.
If it does turn out that there was a 'conspiracy' of discord trans folx egging each other on, what does this mean for NSA dragnet surveillance?
- End to end encryption works?
- There is too much fedposting to sort the signal from the noise?
Nassim Taleb (of all people) was always in the camp that the mass data schlurping that NSA/Five Eyes did on civilian populations was basically useless due to the inability of computers to actually work out what is useful information. Large language models change this.
Would ChatGPT have known that Robinson Meant Business?
- The Three-Letter Agencies are entirely oriented to prosecuting "election deniers" and "white supremacists". They have no time or interest for actual murder conspiracies, especially one coming from a "protected class".
It took the terrible 7/7 bombings for Britain's MI5 to reorder themselves away from looking at Irish terrorism and threats from abroad, to looking at Islamic terror threats within.
If the UK's security services are looking at Islamic terror threats within, it is to protect Islamic rape gangs from the native English.
They are looking at Islamic terror threats? Since when?
Boom!
Not to worry, we know the perpetrators. They've been on our radar for some time...
It is time to prosecute, arrest, and seize assets of all involved in enabling this terrorist ideology. A true crime against America.
Trump already had a large number of things to use against Democrats and the left over the next three years: Russiagate, the 2020 steal, Biden corruption, mortgage fraud, ActBlue, USAID corruption, and a score of other scandals. The trantifa conspiracy to kill Kirk adds another.
The crazy old dude had child porn on his phone. Not slim college girls, 5 year olds being abused.
Ha, just came on to post that. If this was all written by some right wing TV writer, it'd get kicked back by the producer as "maybe this is all a bit too on nose".
"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people".
Sure. Right after Hell freezes over.
Ya beat me to it by a few seconds
Yeah, right after they reassess their support of leftist policies! 😍
>"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people."
I'll take "Two Things the Prestige Press Will Never Do" for $400, Alex!
Robinson was a game player. They spend their time in games that involve shooting people right and left. One of the shocking things we have learned is his seeming casualness about the whole affair, as if he were only playing a game. The idea that he would easily get away with his crime was utterly unrealistic, again, as if it were in a game.
This is the most boomer comment I've ever seen on substack. DOOM was released in 1993 and any young man alive between 1993 and now has played an FPS at some point.
Every time the authorities reveal evidence, they taint their own court case and give the defendant grounds for appeal. They should try their suspect in the courtroom, not in the media.
That can be a thing, but the text messages Steve quoted are from a courtroom document, so the authorities are indeed trying their suspect in the courtroom.
Waiting for the Frontlash coverage, and the Poe's Law manifestation of a variation of Norm McDonald's famous deadpan satire, " ... because then, the blowback against innocent trantifa, would be absolutely terrible."
The LA Times is on the case!
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-09-16/charlie-kirk-railed-against-transgender-rights-his-killing-has-further-fueled-the-fight
We're at this point in the collapse of our civilization due in large part to the media's enthusiastic complicity in said collapse. Asking them to tone it down now is surely...not going to work.
How does the current state of transmania fit into Moldbug's old story about witch-hunting? I remember that he was making an argument about who actually has power, and it was along these lines: if there are a bunch of witch-hunters and they are encouraged and applauded by the powers-that-be, then we can be sure that there aren't any witches (or, at least, that witches have no power). On the other hand, if witch-hunters are persecuted and exiled from polite society, then we can tell that the witches are in charge. During the Biden administration, it seemed that it was fine for the witch-hunters to attack 'white supremacists' with impunity, suggesting that there weren't any powerful actual examples running about. On the other hand, witch-hunters criticizing trannies were regularly kicked to the curb. It now seems, however, that, at least with the trannies, the witch-hunters and the witches might be undergoing a significant power shift.
I never understood his analogy. People didn't think witches were in control of society or even were powerful. They thought they were spoiling cows milk, giving middle aged men impotence and causing bad weather.
Well, his favorite rhetorical tool was and is hyperbole, so that should explain something.
Sometimes what looks like the hypersensitive "narcissism of small difference" turns out to have a point. The pro-trans crowd has always tried to argue that their case is a mere logical extension of the one for pluralistic anti-discriminatory acceptance of gays, who at an earlier time made a similar argument about their own acceptance being an extension of the argument for the earlier acceptance of those of other races and creeds and so forth. And from the 30,000 foot distant perspective of a core normie marinated from birth in woke indoctrination, this argument seems at least somewhat plausible.
But from close up, it's clearer that there is something really different going on, and WWT is NOT like WWG, and for all the talk of intetsectional alliance of all the various flavors of sexuality deviation, adding in the T's was more like trying to integrate the sharks into all the other mutually friendly fish groups in Finding Nemo. "Fish are friends! NOT! FOOD!" It can't last; sharks gonna shark. Normies can be convinced that most gays are mostly otherwise normal except for the being gay part and the peculiarities of the gay community subculture, that "baby i was born this way" seems plausible for many of them, and the personal exposures and experiences of normies with gays are not too inconsistent with this social model. But this doesn't hold for transgenderism, where there are MUCH stronger and more prevalent vibes of social contagion, fanatical cultist ideologies, and a high proportion of individuals with clear mental and personality aberrations wholly distinct from matters solely related to sexuality. My guess is that WWT is going to remain a bridge too far, and that to the extent there may arise a resurgence of wokeism, it will tend to deemphasize the issue for some time and converge on a different WW front to pursue.
Very astute observations. Unfortunate that all this wasn't foreseen before turning the world upside-down to accommodate this squarest of pegs. Women are a very poor choice to act as society's gatekeepers. Not their fault, but still...
O/T
Nothing on the death of Robert Redford? 🤔
My favorite Redford anecdote was when he was trying to convince Mike Nichols to give him a role and the latter demurred as he felt the former couldn't believably play a loser. To drive home the point, Nichols said he couldn't picture Redford ever striking out with a woman and Redford seemed unclear on the whole concept!
Thanks. Most of the Redford anecdotes I know are slightly rude about him. I think my bias goes back to "Butch Cassidy" screenwriter William Goldman's famous memoir. Goldman liked Paul Newman more than Redford, and so I've tended to collect anti-Redford anecdotes. But that's unfair to Redford -- OK, he wasn't as great of a guy as Paul Newman, but not many people are.
So if you know any pro-Redford anecdotes suitable for an obituary, let me know.
I'm not sure I've ever heard one either, although I appreciate the tip about Goldman's memoir. Is it the one called Adventures in the Screen Trade? I find it ironic that Goldman felt this way considering both of his Oscars have come from writing movies in which Redford starred.
I will say that the first time Redford directed, not only did he win an Oscar for Best Director, but the movie also won Best Picture, but this doesn't necessarily translate into heartwarming anecdotes. I will say I enjoyed Quiz Show but I haven't seen it in years
Right, Quiz Show, Ordinary People, and A River Runs Through It are fine movies.
“Dark Winds,” which Redford produced, is outstanding!
Adventures in the Screen Trade is a really good read.
Also Goldman's follow up, "Which Lie Did I Tell"? Both books are great. Goldman wrote way more than his share of fine movies. Meanwhile, another well-known book on screenwriting, "Save the Cat!", was written by Blake Snyder, who only had two movies produced, "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" and "Blank Check," both stinkers.
he was surprisingly short, 5'8" tops
That's another unkind anecdote my brain has filed away about Redford. In the early 1980s, a friend worked in the ER at a Santa Monica hospital. He came over one day to report that Robert Redford had been brought in after sustaining a cut while filming a movie. "The nurses all swarmed around him and you couldn't see him anymore because he's shorter than they are!"
By any objective standard, Redford was a high achiever in multiple (if related) fields. But my brain has unfairly stocked itself with mildly derisive memories about him.
Tall actors make filming difficult because of the difference with actresses. They can always add height, like De Niro in his 3" platform shoes.
Although the killer wasn't trans, this was Trans Terrorism.
Similarly, many revolutionary 1960s-70s Marxist terrorists, such as Bill Ayers, Carlos the Jackal, & Baader-Meinhoff, were not proletarians but true-blue bourgeoisie. That doesn't mean they weren't Marxist terrorists.
Antifascist terror too, no?: https://blog.portfolioarmor.com/p/the-end-of-antifascism
>"It’s time for the prestige press to undergo an agonizing reappraisal of its transgender ideology and the mainstream media’s role in pounding this malign faith into the heads of young people."
The time has come and they're doing the exact opposite:
https://x.com/wesyang/status/1968044291978125561
It puts me in mind of the Mad Magazine spoof of "The Rifleman". He insists he's a man of peace and his son asks him then why does he kill so many people.
"There's nothing as peaceful as a dead man"
Meanwhile more mainstream leftie normies are struggling for the correct reason that it's okay for them to be kind of happy that Kirk was murdered. The top contenders are that school children also get murdered and some state legislators got murdered in Minnesota and people on the right didn't make as big a deal out of it.