I was surprised how many leftists were game to defend Zohran’s obvious attempted racial fraud.
The media digging up & hounding voters with 50 years of Trump scandals has made republicans pretty familiar with the idea of separating the private & public man.
The left retreated into fairytales with Obama & I guess it’s still important for them to believe their candidates are “just good people”.
Yes that tweet from "Sophia Babai" claiming that "Every Gujarati African I have ever met identifies as African first".
This is probably as shameless a lie as I've seen. Here in the UK we recently had Rishi Sunak as our first Asian Prime Minister. His ancestors are Gujarati's, who moved to Tanzania and then to the UK. There has been debate here as to whether Sunak is English (IMO he isn't, though he is British), nobody has even thought to have a debate about whether he is our first African Prime Minister, because that just doesn't make a scrap of sense. Sunak himself identifies as British of Indian heritage, as you might expect.
As you point out, it is, of course, completely ridiculous that a teenager at an elite magnet school wouldn't have known exactly what "African-American" meant in the context of college admissions.
As far as the definition of "black," I find it interesting that somewhere around the Obama years, the terms "mixed-race" or "biracial" seemed to disappear. Obama was constantly hailed as the first black president, despite his very white mother. I remember in my childhood being taught in school how terrible and stupid the one-drop rule was; then 2020 came and all of a sudden it seemed like everyone with any drop of African blood and even a hint of a dark complexion was "Black." (I'm thinking especially of golfer Cameron Champ, 1/4th black and about as tan as a typical Texas A&M frat boy.)
How many celebrities with one black and one white parent will call themselves biracial before calling themselves black? Maybe Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel, who apparently is too much of a nerd to be black, at least according to the media types who love to talk about Patrick Mahomes is a black quarterback, but then omit McDaniel's name in articles talking about how terrible it is that there aren't enough black NFL head coaches.
Golfer Cam Champ is often photographed with his very black grandfather and his half-black father. But he doesn't look black at all. You see that more with Australian Aborigines.
Though Subsaharans are the most genetically diverse humans, much of it is phenotypically redundant. This is why their features tend to dominate in mixing with the other continental races.; but Oceanians, despite their phenotypic similarities, tend to subside; particularly on account of their having the least genetic diversity of every continental race, in spite of their being the second-oldest.
I remember an episode of "The Jeffersons" in which it was revealed that Lionel's wife (cleary black as I recall but with a white father) had a full on white brother. So as a child I had to assume that's how it was. A mixed couple could have babies with alternating racial characteristics. I'm unsure why they thought an adult 1970s audience would let that go.
There have been a few rare circumstances of a mixed-race couple producing very different looking children. I think there are twin sisters from the UK where one's a pale redhead and the other is quite black.
I used to have a friend with twins, one racially purebred northern European and the other black. However, she was honest about how that happened. The twins had two fathers, bred on different days.
Many people are not aware that there is substantial delay between sexual intercourse and egg fertilization.
Your race/ethnicity don't have a darn thing to do with where you happened to be born. I guarantee Stancil would have conniption fits if somebody seriously treated Elon Musk as an example of an 'African American'.
99% of the people checking those boxes on college admissions forms were born in the United States but I defy anyone to locate one that has straight up 'American' as a choice.
I can’t stay mad at Zohran. If the blacks wanted a privileged category just for them, they shouldn’t have adopted the confusing, long-winded and stupid term “African American.” I mean, “black” is right there. Although in fairness, Zohran should have known he was “African American” only in national origin and not in race.
It wasn't confusion. He was cognitively an adult, and had spent nearly his whole conscious life in America. He did it to try and have an easier time getting into university. Worse yet, rather than seeing this experience as reason to scrap the racial spoils system, he wants to make it worse to his highest possible ability.
Can we piss the Jew hating candidate off by making "Don't Mess with the Zohran" a thing? It would make up for our failure with "Fetch".
The whole business is so disingenuous. If racism is the sole cause of black underperformance, and this racism requires white people to detect your blackness, ergo, ipso facto e pluribus unum, if you don't black you don't need affirmative action. The idea that this douche was trying to make Columbia's stats as accurate as possible (or whatever the implied reason was) is preposterous.
Strangely, Ghandi was able to differentiate between Indians and Africans in South Africa, and although Mississipi Masala touches on the recognition of difference in East Africa, perhaps Africa Addio makes the point more brutally.
As to Anglo-Australian taxonomy, certainly black could be a catch all phrase but that is not to say that other classifications would not also apply. The Major was fairly clear in explaining this to Fawlty.
Was it inherent in Anglo vs. Latin culture, or did it have something to do with the geography of the colonies, with Portuguese, Spanish, and French colonies being better for single male conquistadors and English colonies for family colonists?
It's adorable this is the biggest scandal anyone has managed to dig up about Mamdani. I don't know what Eric Adams is doing at this moment, but unless he's asleep at his home in New Jersey I assure you he is in the process of committing at least a class B misdemeanor, if not a felony.
There's been endless scandals about Mamdani: his support for state-run grocery stores, defunding the police, abolishing ability grouping and standardized testing in education, and expanding rent control. Unfortunately, they're for things which sadly have a constituency.
Adams biggest scandal was getting in trouble for speeding up a building process. Mamdani wants to ensure no new housing ever gets built again. It's not even a question who's better, though Adams will certainly lose compliments of the ticket split of Sliwa and Cuomo.
He's a complete liar about other Indians not wanting to marry diaspora Indians from Africa. Rishi Sunak that other famous diaspora Indian whose parents are from East Africa .married the daughter of one of Indias richest men.
They also notoriously do NOT see themselves as Africans or black as they are incredibly racist towards Africans. They used to form East Africas commercial class and as such there was much bad blood between them and their African customers. Their used to be an Ugandan proverb. When a man is walking down a path and he comes across a snake and an Indian, which does he kill first. Answer, the Indian of course.
So you get the gist of the relationship between them.
In Evelyn Waugh travel books about Africa, he always admires the decadently aristocratic feckless Arabs of places like Zanzibar and shares their loathing for the up and coming commercial Indians. I couldn't see the point of it, other than as Waugh doing his play-acting at being an aristocrat.
I cannot speak to places in S America where there are a lot of people of mixed or entirely African ancestry, but in the US there is a hard cultural barrier between blacks and everyone else - and they want it that way. The black accent that persists regardless of geographic location, the bizarre naming conventions, certain Christian denominations, etc. Despite frequent lamentations about how American society doesn’t fully embrace them, the reality is that most blacks like being distinctive and have no desire to have that melt away. Everyone understands this, even immigrants fresh off the boat, making Mamdanis attempted appropriation after years of living in the US just pathetic, while highlighting just how deferential our culture is to blacks.
The Zohran Mamdani affair raises three different issues for me. First, Mamdani did not get into Columbia, despite having a father who was a celebrated grievance-studies professor and a mother who was a quasi-celebrity film director. So, either (like Kamala) Mamdani is as dumb as a rock (and claiming to be black supports that notion), or the Columbia admissions office recognized Mamdani's 'crooked' application and denied him for lying on it. I suspect that it's the former, but, since he claims that he only made this claim on the Columbia application, it is possible that someone warned him off that strategy.
Second, I find it risible that leftists accept without the smallest quibble that an adult male can realize after forty or fifty years of living, being married, and raising children that he is actually and has always been a she. Further, a child as young as two or three but certainly by puberty can recognize that he is really a she or vice versa. And, in the case of all of these people, sex mutilation surgery is the best solution. In contrast, a person who has been white (or East Asian or South Asian) cannot suddently realize that he is black, and anyone who suggests otherwise is a horrible racist who should be shunned. What is it about sexual eccentricity that awakens the moron in leftists?
Third, Indians of the South Asian sort are notoriously racist and classist (forgive the awkward quasi-neologism). High caste Indians still rarely marry outside the caste, and those in sub-Saharan Africa most certainly do not marry the locals. It is, of course, true that high caste Indians abroad (in the European, but especially the Anglophone world) adopt the language of the various radical racial ideologies created by Europeans to express their (the Europeans) self-loathing, and they happily take advantage of the racial spoils system when it suits them. But they don't associate with blacks very much and they especially don't marry them.
However, it is also true that, until the day before yesterday (e.g. the US taking over Britain's role as world superpower/policeman), the British referred to just about every non-European people (except for the East Asians) as blacks, so Mamdani's parents might have heard themselves referred to in those terms. I'm re-reading the Sherlock Holmes mysteries over the summer break for fun and I am constantly amused at Doyle's liberal application of the adjective 'black' to any non-Anglophone character.
He also checked "Asian". I wonder if that penalized him enough to make his fraudulent racial gaming not make up enough for what were assuredly subpar grades and standardized testing scores.
This won’t hurt Mamdani because the left doesn’t care about things like this. They care about power and if this guy can get elected, that’s all that matters.
I was surprised how many leftists were game to defend Zohran’s obvious attempted racial fraud.
The media digging up & hounding voters with 50 years of Trump scandals has made republicans pretty familiar with the idea of separating the private & public man.
The left retreated into fairytales with Obama & I guess it’s still important for them to believe their candidates are “just good people”.
Yes that tweet from "Sophia Babai" claiming that "Every Gujarati African I have ever met identifies as African first".
This is probably as shameless a lie as I've seen. Here in the UK we recently had Rishi Sunak as our first Asian Prime Minister. His ancestors are Gujarati's, who moved to Tanzania and then to the UK. There has been debate here as to whether Sunak is English (IMO he isn't, though he is British), nobody has even thought to have a debate about whether he is our first African Prime Minister, because that just doesn't make a scrap of sense. Sunak himself identifies as British of Indian heritage, as you might expect.
Did you search for a Paulette Serodio? He sounds like a bit of a stubborn jerk to go back to a school he sued.
As you point out, it is, of course, completely ridiculous that a teenager at an elite magnet school wouldn't have known exactly what "African-American" meant in the context of college admissions.
As far as the definition of "black," I find it interesting that somewhere around the Obama years, the terms "mixed-race" or "biracial" seemed to disappear. Obama was constantly hailed as the first black president, despite his very white mother. I remember in my childhood being taught in school how terrible and stupid the one-drop rule was; then 2020 came and all of a sudden it seemed like everyone with any drop of African blood and even a hint of a dark complexion was "Black." (I'm thinking especially of golfer Cameron Champ, 1/4th black and about as tan as a typical Texas A&M frat boy.)
How many celebrities with one black and one white parent will call themselves biracial before calling themselves black? Maybe Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel, who apparently is too much of a nerd to be black, at least according to the media types who love to talk about Patrick Mahomes is a black quarterback, but then omit McDaniel's name in articles talking about how terrible it is that there aren't enough black NFL head coaches.
Golfer Cam Champ is often photographed with his very black grandfather and his half-black father. But he doesn't look black at all. You see that more with Australian Aborigines.
Though Subsaharans are the most genetically diverse humans, much of it is phenotypically redundant. This is why their features tend to dominate in mixing with the other continental races.; but Oceanians, despite their phenotypic similarities, tend to subside; particularly on account of their having the least genetic diversity of every continental race, in spite of their being the second-oldest.
I remember an episode of "The Jeffersons" in which it was revealed that Lionel's wife (cleary black as I recall but with a white father) had a full on white brother. So as a child I had to assume that's how it was. A mixed couple could have babies with alternating racial characteristics. I'm unsure why they thought an adult 1970s audience would let that go.
Perhaps Lionel's wife's mom was married twice or cheated a little too much.
There have been a few rare circumstances of a mixed-race couple producing very different looking children. I think there are twin sisters from the UK where one's a pale redhead and the other is quite black.
I used to have a friend with twins, one racially purebred northern European and the other black. However, she was honest about how that happened. The twins had two fathers, bred on different days.
Many people are not aware that there is substantial delay between sexual intercourse and egg fertilization.
https://open.lib.umn.edu/evosex/chapter/14-7-human-fertilization-from-gametes-to-a-zygote/
Your race/ethnicity don't have a darn thing to do with where you happened to be born. I guarantee Stancil would have conniption fits if somebody seriously treated Elon Musk as an example of an 'African American'.
99% of the people checking those boxes on college admissions forms were born in the United States but I defy anyone to locate one that has straight up 'American' as a choice.
years ago blacks in the UK expressed pique at being called African American. I wonder if that ever caught on.
I can’t stay mad at Zohran. If the blacks wanted a privileged category just for them, they shouldn’t have adopted the confusing, long-winded and stupid term “African American.” I mean, “black” is right there. Although in fairness, Zohran should have known he was “African American” only in national origin and not in race.
It wasn't confusion. He was cognitively an adult, and had spent nearly his whole conscious life in America. He did it to try and have an easier time getting into university. Worse yet, rather than seeing this experience as reason to scrap the racial spoils system, he wants to make it worse to his highest possible ability.
Can we piss the Jew hating candidate off by making "Don't Mess with the Zohran" a thing? It would make up for our failure with "Fetch".
The whole business is so disingenuous. If racism is the sole cause of black underperformance, and this racism requires white people to detect your blackness, ergo, ipso facto e pluribus unum, if you don't black you don't need affirmative action. The idea that this douche was trying to make Columbia's stats as accurate as possible (or whatever the implied reason was) is preposterous.
and not to be mean or anything but, what's the opposite of stolen valor?
Here’s what ChatGPT said when I asked … what’s a punchier term for cultural or racial appropriation, in the way that “ stolen valor,” is?
Identity Theft – metaphorical, ties appropriation to a recognizable crime.
Heritage Hijack – alliterative and sharp, implies unauthorized control.
purloined pokemon points
Strangely, Ghandi was able to differentiate between Indians and Africans in South Africa, and although Mississipi Masala touches on the recognition of difference in East Africa, perhaps Africa Addio makes the point more brutally.
As to Anglo-Australian taxonomy, certainly black could be a catch all phrase but that is not to say that other classifications would not also apply. The Major was fairly clear in explaining this to Fawlty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns0uRr6aPQE
In the English Civil war there was a general known as "Black Tom" because of his dark hair.
“Wogs begin at Calais”—Churchill.
An interesting historical question is why Latin America had a Color Continuum but the US south had a Color Line.
Was it inherent in Anglo vs. Latin culture, or did it have something to do with the geography of the colonies, with Portuguese, Spanish, and French colonies being better for single male conquistadors and English colonies for family colonists?
What about the farming part of Quebec?
I guess there were so few blacks in Quebec that that's not a good test.
Just as A/C enabled Yankees to move to the South and Southwest, was central heating required to get blacks into the frozen North?
It's adorable this is the biggest scandal anyone has managed to dig up about Mamdani. I don't know what Eric Adams is doing at this moment, but unless he's asleep at his home in New Jersey I assure you he is in the process of committing at least a class B misdemeanor, if not a felony.
But Eric Adams apparently will go down in history as the mayor who got the garbage bags off the sidewalks of New York.
It seems they shipped them all to Philadelphia.
There's been endless scandals about Mamdani: his support for state-run grocery stores, defunding the police, abolishing ability grouping and standardized testing in education, and expanding rent control. Unfortunately, they're for things which sadly have a constituency.
Adams biggest scandal was getting in trouble for speeding up a building process. Mamdani wants to ensure no new housing ever gets built again. It's not even a question who's better, though Adams will certainly lose compliments of the ticket split of Sliwa and Cuomo.
He's a complete liar about other Indians not wanting to marry diaspora Indians from Africa. Rishi Sunak that other famous diaspora Indian whose parents are from East Africa .married the daughter of one of Indias richest men.
They also notoriously do NOT see themselves as Africans or black as they are incredibly racist towards Africans. They used to form East Africas commercial class and as such there was much bad blood between them and their African customers. Their used to be an Ugandan proverb. When a man is walking down a path and he comes across a snake and an Indian, which does he kill first. Answer, the Indian of course.
So you get the gist of the relationship between them.
In Evelyn Waugh travel books about Africa, he always admires the decadently aristocratic feckless Arabs of places like Zanzibar and shares their loathing for the up and coming commercial Indians. I couldn't see the point of it, other than as Waugh doing his play-acting at being an aristocrat.
I cannot speak to places in S America where there are a lot of people of mixed or entirely African ancestry, but in the US there is a hard cultural barrier between blacks and everyone else - and they want it that way. The black accent that persists regardless of geographic location, the bizarre naming conventions, certain Christian denominations, etc. Despite frequent lamentations about how American society doesn’t fully embrace them, the reality is that most blacks like being distinctive and have no desire to have that melt away. Everyone understands this, even immigrants fresh off the boat, making Mamdanis attempted appropriation after years of living in the US just pathetic, while highlighting just how deferential our culture is to blacks.
The Zohran Mamdani affair raises three different issues for me. First, Mamdani did not get into Columbia, despite having a father who was a celebrated grievance-studies professor and a mother who was a quasi-celebrity film director. So, either (like Kamala) Mamdani is as dumb as a rock (and claiming to be black supports that notion), or the Columbia admissions office recognized Mamdani's 'crooked' application and denied him for lying on it. I suspect that it's the former, but, since he claims that he only made this claim on the Columbia application, it is possible that someone warned him off that strategy.
Second, I find it risible that leftists accept without the smallest quibble that an adult male can realize after forty or fifty years of living, being married, and raising children that he is actually and has always been a she. Further, a child as young as two or three but certainly by puberty can recognize that he is really a she or vice versa. And, in the case of all of these people, sex mutilation surgery is the best solution. In contrast, a person who has been white (or East Asian or South Asian) cannot suddently realize that he is black, and anyone who suggests otherwise is a horrible racist who should be shunned. What is it about sexual eccentricity that awakens the moron in leftists?
Third, Indians of the South Asian sort are notoriously racist and classist (forgive the awkward quasi-neologism). High caste Indians still rarely marry outside the caste, and those in sub-Saharan Africa most certainly do not marry the locals. It is, of course, true that high caste Indians abroad (in the European, but especially the Anglophone world) adopt the language of the various radical racial ideologies created by Europeans to express their (the Europeans) self-loathing, and they happily take advantage of the racial spoils system when it suits them. But they don't associate with blacks very much and they especially don't marry them.
However, it is also true that, until the day before yesterday (e.g. the US taking over Britain's role as world superpower/policeman), the British referred to just about every non-European people (except for the East Asians) as blacks, so Mamdani's parents might have heard themselves referred to in those terms. I'm re-reading the Sherlock Holmes mysteries over the summer break for fun and I am constantly amused at Doyle's liberal application of the adjective 'black' to any non-Anglophone character.
He also checked "Asian". I wonder if that penalized him enough to make his fraudulent racial gaming not make up enough for what were assuredly subpar grades and standardized testing scores.
This won’t hurt Mamdani because the left doesn’t care about things like this. They care about power and if this guy can get elected, that’s all that matters.
“Med student says he was suspended for saying he was African-American.”
Well hold on, which Mediterranean country? He may have a case.