It is unusual to see the weirds blogs I read years ago make traction now. Yarvin's ideas being put into place in government. And these weirdos going nuts.
I don't know about Teresa, I haven't seen any pics of her, but Emma I'm guessing was born male. But did (s)he die female? It would take a politically incorrect reporter to get to the bottom of this tangled web and we may never know the true story. Hopefully their stabby and shooty ways are at an end.
I thought Emma was a man and probably is. He’ll show up in criminal statistics as female violent offender creating confusion and obfuscating data on violent crime.
I'm in favor of rationality but I think people who make a point of it, to the point of joining a group, often (usually) do so because they can't believe that most of the world doesn't share their (political and political adjacent) opinions.
"transgender vegan animal rights effective altruist rationalist high IQ computer geeks"
the computer stuff aside, that's three orthogonal weirdo belief systems rolling around one human noggin'. If we come across a few more examples, this has the makings of a new Sailer rule.
Considering the number of trans people involved in gun homicides over the last few years it seems to me that many are taking out their self-destructive impulses out on others, and this deserves more attention from honest clinicians as well as openly discussing trans-ness as a risk factor in hiring or even gun ownership.
I have a friend who has a young adult son who is currently transitioning (encouraged by the ex-wife) to be his "true self" although in reality I think it's just partly a coping mechanism for the fact that he's possibly slightly autistic (he is very high IQ) and has always struggled with his happiness. Prior to the trans stuff popping up, my friend taught his sons how to shoot and I have been out to the range with them more than once and we all enjoyed ourselves. I am not sure if in his new guise as a would-be female this young man is still enthusiastic about firearms, but there is no question he knows what to do with them and when the initial buzz about his transformation wears off he and reverts to periodic depression and likely massive regret I am not sure what form those feelings might take.
The symptom of "One minute, she's so happy, then she's crying on someone's knee" is consistent with borderline personality disorder [1], a disorder within the B cluster [2] of personality disorders.
"Considering the number of trans people involved in gun homicides over the last few years it seems to me that many are taking out their self-destructive impulses out on others, and this deserves more attention from honest clinicians as well as openly discussing trans-ness as a risk factor in hiring or even gun ownership."
I have, in the past, proposed Kaganovitch’s Corollary to Caldwell’s Observation–
Caldwell’s Observation
” One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which affirmative action can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too weak to a world in which it can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too strong.”
Kaganovitch’s Corollary
“One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which Trans people can’t be deadnamed lest they commit suicide to a world where they can’t be deadnamed lest they commit homicide.”
Trans is largely just a fig leaf for an array of other disorders or paraphilias. The argument is indulge the trans and that other stuff recedes, but the reality is that it turbocharges them.
"transgender vegan animal rights effective altruist rationalist"
Would you trust a single person in any of those categories with your money or your person? There oughta be a law.
Seriously, all the tech of the last forty years seems to have done is enable these lunatics. Soulless zombies.
It has just been explained to me that at its core, AI 1) recognizes patterns, and 2) applies patterns. So some people somewhere have got to be already applying AI to genetics, sociology, and economics. Are these people getting their Marxist paradigms blasted and suffering cognitive breaks? Jim Carrey, Kathy Griffin, Sha LaBoeuf all had manic episodes when Trump got elected in 2016.
We no longer cull for sociopathy and one of these bipolar savants is going to get a graduate degree and end up working with viruses one day if they aren't already. I think I know what the Great Filter is.
California certainly has had its share of nutty cults. Charles Manson. Jim Jones. Hale Bopp. Scientology. The Summer of Love. The Symbionese Liberation Army. David Berg and The Children of God. The Grateful Dead. Why? Most probably due to California's large population. Lots of people, lots of cults. The beautiful weather might have something to do with the cults. The weather of California lends to a "peaceful, easy feeling" as the Eagles noted. Perhaps it is the Puritan diaspora that spread over parts of America like Maine, Upstate New York and the barn-burning territory, northern Ohio, Oregon and finally California.
As something of a former insider to the Bay Area Rationalist scene I think I’m in a good position to explain much of the Ziz cluster’s behavior in simple terms.
These are proud people with a strong sense of honor. So in situations where someone with power over them behaves unfairly to them, they’re much less willing than a normal person to shrug it off and move on with their lives. Instead, they’re inclined to retaliate. In our highly submissive society this behavior gets consistently punished - so they feel the need to retaliate *again*. So the situation escalates from handing out pamphlets in protest of a fraudulent rationality nonprofit while wearing outlandish costumes, to being SWATted by paranoid people working for that nonprofit, to resisting arrest… And from a mundane conflict with a landlord probably familiar to many people in marginal housing conditions, to killing that landlord.
Much of the highfalutin talk about decision theory is basically a way to intellectualize - or, if you prefer, to *explain* in language familiar to other nerdy members of their subculture - that sense of honor, and why they think more people ought to have it.
LOL. Taliban fighters are "proud people with a strong sense of honor." Your fellow polycule dwellers are just vain people with no coping skills, so being asked to pay rent for the privilege of parking your ramshackle box truck somewhere becomes a "slight" answerable by maiming.
They're basically spoiled children, growing up to do wicked things.
Seems to me that someone can be proud even if you don’t see what they have to be proud of. But maybe the word means something different to you. These are people who responded to perceived aggressors by fighting back effectively enough to actually kill one of them, and who willingly risked death to help each other do that.
One interesting thing I've noticed is that Catholics don't seem to be in the least perturbed by AI. The subject just doesn't come up if I'm listening to, say Bishop Barron, or Patrick Deneen, Adrian Vermeule, Michael Anton, etc.
This looks like a brilliant piece of investigative journalism by OpenVallejo, piecing together a seemingly unrelated collection of dark deeds by following the Ziz connection. Well spotted, Steve.
Only the marriage licence connects Maximilian Snyder to the fatal shooting of border agent David Maland in Vermont in January 2025, involving Teresa Jungbluth and Felix Bauckholt, who was also killed. However, Bauckholt was involved with the Zizian group.
Only his arrest for the murder of Curtis Lind in January 2025 connects Snyder to the stabbing of Lind in 2022 by Suri Dao, Emma Borhanian and Jeffrey Leatham. In that incident, Lind killed Borhanian in self-defence and Dao and Leatham were charged with her murder. And previously, Borhanian, Leatham and Jack LaSota, known as Ziz, were arrested at the Sonoma protest against Applied Rationality in 2019.
According to the LessWrong version, Ziz and Gwen Danielson were present at the stabbing of Lind (and Leatham is also called Somnulence Logencia). Again according to the LessWrong version, Ziz, Jamie Zajko and Daniel Blank are suspected of involvement in the murder of Zajko's parents in Pennsylvania in 2022.
"Whenever a crime's discovered, Macavity's not there."
I think most of us on this Substack are borderline geeks and probably had some high school acquaintances who these guys resemble. Certain characteristics I noticed were intelligent but in an obnoxious way, anti-authoritarian, thought the world was corrupt and probably secretly wanted to be popular. As for the corrupt part, most of us don’t figure it out until much later. Maybe that’s healthier.
The Trans thing is distressingly ubiquitous among teen Vermonters, even in public schools. Also Vermont is culturally similar to Northern California.
It is unusual to see the weirds blogs I read years ago make traction now. Yarvin's ideas being put into place in government. And these weirdos going nuts.
The margin moves to the center aides and abetted by the internet. What took decades now take a few years.
Yikes!
One more thing to worry about.
Maximillian Snyder, Teresa Youngblut, Felix Bauckholt, Emma Borhanian, Jack LaSota? These cannot be their real names.
Why not?
I don't know about Teresa, I haven't seen any pics of her, but Emma I'm guessing was born male. But did (s)he die female? It would take a politically incorrect reporter to get to the bottom of this tangled web and we may never know the true story. Hopefully their stabby and shooty ways are at an end.
I thought Emma was a man and probably is. He’ll show up in criminal statistics as female violent offender creating confusion and obfuscating data on violent crime.
“Ophelia” is a top 3 song by The Band though, IMO.
Alexandr Dugin has this right.
I'm in favor of rationality but I think people who make a point of it, to the point of joining a group, often (usually) do so because they can't believe that most of the world doesn't share their (political and political adjacent) opinions.
"transgender vegan animal rights effective altruist rationalist high IQ computer geeks"
the computer stuff aside, that's three orthogonal weirdo belief systems rolling around one human noggin'. If we come across a few more examples, this has the makings of a new Sailer rule.
It’s also an SNL skit. It’s pure conformity for progressive stereotype. All that’s missing is anti-racist and anti-capitalist.
Considering the number of trans people involved in gun homicides over the last few years it seems to me that many are taking out their self-destructive impulses out on others, and this deserves more attention from honest clinicians as well as openly discussing trans-ness as a risk factor in hiring or even gun ownership.
I have a friend who has a young adult son who is currently transitioning (encouraged by the ex-wife) to be his "true self" although in reality I think it's just partly a coping mechanism for the fact that he's possibly slightly autistic (he is very high IQ) and has always struggled with his happiness. Prior to the trans stuff popping up, my friend taught his sons how to shoot and I have been out to the range with them more than once and we all enjoyed ourselves. I am not sure if in his new guise as a would-be female this young man is still enthusiastic about firearms, but there is no question he knows what to do with them and when the initial buzz about his transformation wears off he and reverts to periodic depression and likely massive regret I am not sure what form those feelings might take.
"One minute, she's so happy, then she's crying on someone's knee
Saying, laughing, and crying, you know it's the same release."
-- People's Parties, Joni Mitchell
Meanwhile in Britain today:
Second teenage footballer banned for asking if transgender opponents were men
Exclusive: Teenager with learning difficulties suspended for six matches for questioning referee about eligibility of ‘aggressive’ opponents.
https://bitl.to/3osV
The symptom of "One minute, she's so happy, then she's crying on someone's knee" is consistent with borderline personality disorder [1], a disorder within the B cluster [2] of personality disorders.
Ref.
[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8620075/
[2] https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/09/20/christopher_rufo_welcome_to_the_cluster_b_society_public_life_has_been_consumed_by_hysteria_and_narcissism.html
Merely asking now demands a full ban.
Punishment so people finally stop noticing.
"Considering the number of trans people involved in gun homicides over the last few years it seems to me that many are taking out their self-destructive impulses out on others, and this deserves more attention from honest clinicians as well as openly discussing trans-ness as a risk factor in hiring or even gun ownership."
I have, in the past, proposed Kaganovitch’s Corollary to Caldwell’s Observation–
Caldwell’s Observation
” One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which affirmative action can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too weak to a world in which it can’t be ended because its beneficiaries are too strong.”
Kaganovitch’s Corollary
“One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which Trans people can’t be deadnamed lest they commit suicide to a world where they can’t be deadnamed lest they commit homicide.”
They do seem quite aggressive, I must say.
Trans is largely just a fig leaf for an array of other disorders or paraphilias. The argument is indulge the trans and that other stuff recedes, but the reality is that it turbocharges them.
The men are aggressive. You don’t hear about a trans identified woman harassing men and killing men.
They do shoot up schools, though.
I see you understand transition shock.
"transgender vegan animal rights effective altruist rationalist"
Would you trust a single person in any of those categories with your money or your person? There oughta be a law.
Seriously, all the tech of the last forty years seems to have done is enable these lunatics. Soulless zombies.
It has just been explained to me that at its core, AI 1) recognizes patterns, and 2) applies patterns. So some people somewhere have got to be already applying AI to genetics, sociology, and economics. Are these people getting their Marxist paradigms blasted and suffering cognitive breaks? Jim Carrey, Kathy Griffin, Sha LaBoeuf all had manic episodes when Trump got elected in 2016.
We no longer cull for sociopathy and one of these bipolar savants is going to get a graduate degree and end up working with viruses one day if they aren't already. I think I know what the Great Filter is.
California certainly has had its share of nutty cults. Charles Manson. Jim Jones. Hale Bopp. Scientology. The Summer of Love. The Symbionese Liberation Army. David Berg and The Children of God. The Grateful Dead. Why? Most probably due to California's large population. Lots of people, lots of cults. The beautiful weather might have something to do with the cults. The weather of California lends to a "peaceful, easy feeling" as the Eagles noted. Perhaps it is the Puritan diaspora that spread over parts of America like Maine, Upstate New York and the barn-burning territory, northern Ohio, Oregon and finally California.
And I regret that I forgot Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters.
As something of a former insider to the Bay Area Rationalist scene I think I’m in a good position to explain much of the Ziz cluster’s behavior in simple terms.
These are proud people with a strong sense of honor. So in situations where someone with power over them behaves unfairly to them, they’re much less willing than a normal person to shrug it off and move on with their lives. Instead, they’re inclined to retaliate. In our highly submissive society this behavior gets consistently punished - so they feel the need to retaliate *again*. So the situation escalates from handing out pamphlets in protest of a fraudulent rationality nonprofit while wearing outlandish costumes, to being SWATted by paranoid people working for that nonprofit, to resisting arrest… And from a mundane conflict with a landlord probably familiar to many people in marginal housing conditions, to killing that landlord.
Much of the highfalutin talk about decision theory is basically a way to intellectualize - or, if you prefer, to *explain* in language familiar to other nerdy members of their subculture - that sense of honor, and why they think more people ought to have it.
LOL. Taliban fighters are "proud people with a strong sense of honor." Your fellow polycule dwellers are just vain people with no coping skills, so being asked to pay rent for the privilege of parking your ramshackle box truck somewhere becomes a "slight" answerable by maiming.
They're basically spoiled children, growing up to do wicked things.
Seems to me that someone can be proud even if you don’t see what they have to be proud of. But maybe the word means something different to you. These are people who responded to perceived aggressors by fighting back effectively enough to actually kill one of them, and who willingly risked death to help each other do that.
For what cause other than their sociopathy?
"Emma’s a dude, right?"
Judging by the Adam's apple, I'd have to say you're right.
Funny, I wrote a post a couple months ago warning about these types on my hobby Substack blog:
https://open.substack.com/pub/wfprice/p/ai-foolishness-is-a-sign-of-the-times?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2iu6yr
One interesting thing I've noticed is that Catholics don't seem to be in the least perturbed by AI. The subject just doesn't come up if I'm listening to, say Bishop Barron, or Patrick Deneen, Adrian Vermeule, Michael Anton, etc.
This looks like a brilliant piece of investigative journalism by OpenVallejo, piecing together a seemingly unrelated collection of dark deeds by following the Ziz connection. Well spotted, Steve.
Only the marriage licence connects Maximilian Snyder to the fatal shooting of border agent David Maland in Vermont in January 2025, involving Teresa Jungbluth and Felix Bauckholt, who was also killed. However, Bauckholt was involved with the Zizian group.
Only his arrest for the murder of Curtis Lind in January 2025 connects Snyder to the stabbing of Lind in 2022 by Suri Dao, Emma Borhanian and Jeffrey Leatham. In that incident, Lind killed Borhanian in self-defence and Dao and Leatham were charged with her murder. And previously, Borhanian, Leatham and Jack LaSota, known as Ziz, were arrested at the Sonoma protest against Applied Rationality in 2019.
According to the LessWrong version, Ziz and Gwen Danielson were present at the stabbing of Lind (and Leatham is also called Somnulence Logencia). Again according to the LessWrong version, Ziz, Jamie Zajko and Daniel Blank are suspected of involvement in the murder of Zajko's parents in Pennsylvania in 2022.
"Whenever a crime's discovered, Macavity's not there."
I think most of us on this Substack are borderline geeks and probably had some high school acquaintances who these guys resemble. Certain characteristics I noticed were intelligent but in an obnoxious way, anti-authoritarian, thought the world was corrupt and probably secretly wanted to be popular. As for the corrupt part, most of us don’t figure it out until much later. Maybe that’s healthier.