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David Simon's avatar

Not sure too many Black shooters read the NYT. Maybe the cryptic crosstic but not much else

AngloVermonter's avatar

We need a thoroughgoing analysis of the BLM phenomenon, city by city.

Austin Ruse's avatar

Whatever happened to the mass shooting database?

Ralph L's avatar

They called them "family annihilators" on "Criminal Minds," but I've no idea if that's official FBI lingo. Seriously disturbed. That show had a fair number of interesting crimes, many based on life, but of course it degenerated into soap opera about the regular cast members, who all became targets multiple times. The weirdest thing to me was that a show about serial killers (many of the crazy women) and its ads were aimed at a female audience. The last damsel was always saved in the final minutes--too bad!

The scattershot mass shooter wants general panic to help his getaway. It isn't a bad idea, if you have no conscience.

YojimboZatoichi's avatar

"Seriously, that’s the kind of news that doesn’t fit."

But is it the kind of news that's fit to print?

Boulevardier's avatar

Perhaps indirectly, in that nice liberal whites bought into the idea that hundreds of scholars and aspiring rappers were being mowed down by the cops every year, so depolicing is a great idea that will save innocent black lives and not have any negative downstream effects for society at large.

One of the hallmarks of elite whites and their institutions is that they really do not understand the people they claim to care about and adopt narratives that boost status but are divorced from unpleasant facts. Given their influence this has given fuel to massive errors in our culture and politics, and attempts to correct them are painted as retrograde bigotry.

Derek Leaberry's avatar

Blacks should take up the wisdom of Sista Souljah who said thirty-three years ago that "if black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?" I've never heard of a more elegant proposal. It makes so much sense. For instance, Baltimore blacks could take off a week shooting up Charm City, head up Route 83 a half an hour's drive, and shoot up York, PA for a week.

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Derek Leaberry's avatar

York PA used to be a very white small town and is half an hour north of Baltimore on Route 83. Over the past forty years, York has become heavily Hispanic like a lot of Pennsylvania small towns.

barnabus's avatar

Steve, r^2 = 0.29 (r = +0.54) is very substantial indeed. Moreover, you'll probably get an even better orrelation if you do a 3 year following average for NYT quotes (ie compare mass shootings in 2020 with average NYT quotes for 2018, 2019 and 2020 and so on). The technique is in common use in sensory physiology etc where many picked up signals discriminate for novelty. So one needs time integration to reveal the underlying change of state.

Erik's avatar

But did it reduce police shootings of unarmed blacks? And did increase donut sales? Here in LA most of the independent donut shops are owned and run by hardworking Cambodian refugees. So you know, if you want to focus on the bad (net additional murders of young black men) you can make anything sound bad.

Jerome's avatar

It seems far more likely that the NYT publishing lots of BLM mentions and the rise in BOB shootings are both effects of some more general cause, rather than that either one directly caused the other. This would still show a strong correlation.

barnabus's avatar

r^2 of 0.30 or better is already a strong correlation. Let's say A and B are both caused by C. If A and B already correlate with an r^2 of 0.30, correlations between A and C and B and C start verging on astronomical, like the IQ of separately adopted, orphaned identical twins. You are a hair breadth away from verifying Curtis Yarvin's Cathedral Hypothesis.