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Rosemary's avatar

Everything with Trump is a negotiating position. Best not pay attention until the end.

SJ's avatar

That was probably true from 2016-20, but as it’s become clear that there’s not much more Denmark can do for him, Trump’s 79-year-old idee fixe seems to have become Complete and Total Control.

RevelinConcentration's avatar

I used to think that, but not anymore.

Philip Neal's avatar

Trump's position is now incoherent. He demands the total control of Greenland which he had anyway, but nothing will satisfy him but the juridical sovereignty which he claims to be meaningless. I think this is the point where his allies, of which my country is one, have to defy him.

But to Steve's point. Trump is thin-skinned and getting worse. He is utterly incapable of laughing at himself and also weirdly vain. He really cares what the prime minister of Norway thinks of him. I see that he is going to the Davos summit later this week, but I predict tariffs on Switzerland when he gets home. Contrast him with Reagan in the early years of his decline, still his sunny, optimistic self right up to the point where he could no longer go on.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

If Trump loses Greenland? So what. Its a large world. If anyone thinks Trump will be destroyed by this, remember, They couldnt impeach him and convict. they couldn't bankrupt his family business, although New York, a remarkably innovative regulatory state tried, They couldn't jail him, although the Democrats tried. They couldn't keep him off the ballot. Biden was selected solely to counter Trump. He did for a while, based on Covid disorder, but Biden failed in every imaginable way. Someone tried to kill him and pierced his ear. If anyone thinks that Greenland is a sign of his deterioration, they haven't been watching closely.

Trump pulled off the most impressive military adventure in American history in Venezuela imo, losing zero men and taking down a national enemy in a bloodless (for the US) coup. His press conference afterwards was the best he has ever done, imo. The MSM thought it would immediately unravel, yet this week the elected government head met with the director of the CIA. The Supreme Court is taking up WWT (world war tranny) with the least attractive trans 'victims' ever. He has Europe, who thinks he is a boob, begging for mercy. He will beat them into settling the Ukraine war in a few months (speculative wishful thinking on my part, I know). And is making Democrats look like fools in Minnesota equating ICE activities less intrusive than a TSA airport check with Nazi Germany. Why do people reading Steve Sailer want to quit winning when it is just starting?

NT's avatar

Are you Donald Trump under pseudonym?

Ronald Huxley's avatar

> Trump's position is now incoherent.

Only if you are unwilling to accept an America First posture by our American President. But you are not an American. You are, de facto, a globalist; you are happy to succumb to the "managing the decline" perspective offered by the EU and NATO for America. We do not receive your judgement, nor your prescription.

Undoubtedly, you will make money from your stance, should it prevail. But for the 99.9% percent of the rest of us, your claims ring hollow. Your self-interested position and point of view as a card-carrying member of the elite are unpersuasive and unattractive to anyone but your fellow-travellers.

Your wealth will be at a minimum, constricted to a choke point that deprives you of your cushy parasitic existence, and at a maximum, your wealth will be confiscated, and you will be consigned to rustification (in the Chinese sense).

Should your globalsim fail, you will have to do honest work for a change. And that will be, unsurprisingly, more than you can bear.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Quite the Nazi sound there, but the Nazis had some good points. They are - and I'm sure you don't fully realize this - nearly the same excellent points made by Communists.

The Nazis benefit was in offering a winning package for all of its own (selected) constituents. And in this they have a few years of success to show for it. I'm unaware of whether the Communists ever actually came through for the poor under their control.

Donald Trump however is offering us nothing. I don't know what you believe you stand to gain from the increasing oligarchy of corruption, but my guess is that at the end of the day you will be left as empty-handed as the rest of us.

Again, I have no issue with your complaints against the faceless ruling wealthy elites and how We The People can and should take from them what they took. Fascism is currently a dirty word, but any other word will do for the same end. I doubt that any such positive end will come. Have you, for example, benefitted from Donald's actions in Venezuela? Has he done that Caesarian thing of distributing the winnings? Has he strengthened the confidence, excitement, and motivation of the nation?

He has not. He has not done any of those things.

The pudding-proof is in the eating. So far I still see Americans too poor to afford... I like to call them "groceries".

A Mets Fan's avatar

Amongst all the vain and narcissistic things he's done, this might be at the top.

Luke Lea's avatar

So far. Putting his name on the Kennedy Center was right up there too.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

It's great to see your name! I was concerned. In any case, yes, that was very funny.

tom blair's avatar

I like Trump. We need him as a strategist - but I'm beginning to think it might be best if he stepped down. Going forward, JD Vance is the face of the new Republican party anyway. Let's get him started.

Denver Gregg's avatar

. . . wait at least 13 months so JDV can have two full terms

Thomas Wallace's avatar

Vance is likely much better than anything the Dems can cobble together. Huge advantage not having a bruising primary.

RevelinConcentration's avatar

What’s his coalition that can overcome the mainstream media bias?

Thomas Wallace's avatar

1. I don't think the Main Street media can take another three years of Trump without self immolating.

2. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should take care of the rest.

But seriously...I dont know. I'm banking on Trump's economy recovering from the never appearing recession. 9k S&P. Otherwise give the Dems their turn.

EmperorAlpha's avatar

You like this mentally unstable Israel First tool and pedophile?

Thomas Wallace's avatar

No...I pine for Biden/Harris.

Of courseI like him. Trump is a vulgar troll. Our troll.

He takes less shit and dishes more out to Israel than any other president. I dont care if he fucks gerbils.

EmperorAlpha's avatar

Don't pine for anyone and just reject the illegitimate Jewish system. Only Thomas Massie is worth your support. MTG too but sadly she was bullied into retiring.

barnabus's avatar

JD doesn't have good situative skills.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

JD Vance? How much Spanish Fly have you swallowed to be excited for JD Vance??? If you're not getting paid for such advocacy I think you should begin demanding it. Better to be a rogue than a fool you know.

JMcG's avatar

I’d like to think this is a preamble to getting out of NATO. Mostly, I’m just enjoying the show.

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EmperorAlpha's avatar

America is less white than any European country and more violent. It should be written off more than Europe. Islamization is a problem in Europe but far from the only one, non-Muslim non-white immigrants also cause problems.

barnabus's avatar

Europe is lost case, not just because demographic replacement, but also because they have much less Judaic-Christian civilizational values from the start. With UK for example - how many years will need to pass before it is another Turkey?

Same with France before it becomes Algeria.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

Europe is great. Try Paris.

barnabus's avatar

Sure - just visit the banlieus

Thomas Wallace's avatar

I was there for 2 weeks in November. I stayed at Sofitel Eiffel Tower. Very Nice. Do I even want to know about bandieus? I live in chicago on north shore. I go to University od Chicago every year or two at most. I dont enjoy black adjacent areas like Hyde Park

EmperorAlpha's avatar

As I said, America is further down the line. Europe can be saved. America arguably can't as it already has the demographics of Brazil at only 50% white or so. The only solution for American whites is to form a white ethnostate.

barnabus's avatar

Yep, that may be. There may be a negotiable swap between say Novorossiya on one side and Greenland on the other. And the EU (not just Ukraine) has no cards.

hodag's avatar

The most gracious explanation to Trump would be "The Madman" thesis. But this seems inexplicable. We will see, not hopeful.

prosa123's avatar

Protecting Greenland from China and Russia? It's a very long way from China, and undoubtedly very low on China's to-do list. As for Russia, the events of the past four years show its military to be a sick joke, incapable of fighting its way out of the proverbial paper bag.

Denver Gregg's avatar

Africa is a long way from China too and yet they've got quite a presence there.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

China can have every last inch of Africa. They need population with today's announcement of record low birth rate. Africans can reproduce like fruit flies.

The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

I think the Chinese want land and minerals, and are indifferent to the Africans.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

The UK only wanted to exploit the place too. See how that worked out for them.

RevelinConcentration's avatar

Thanks for the stating the obvious. If we didn’t need Greenland at the height of the Cold War, we don’t need it now.

DANIEL OBRIEN's avatar

During the Cold War, the Arctic Ocean was completely frozen. That is no longer the case. Traffic, both commercial and military, will increasingly transit the polar region.

DANIEL OBRIEN's avatar

From Perplexity:

Current Navigability by Route

Northern Sea Route (NSR): This eastern route following Russian and Norwegian coasts is relatively easier for navigation due to lower overall ice extent and ice-free conditions in the Barents Sea maintained by warm Gulf Stream currents Wikipedia. Average sailing times have fallen from 20 days in the 1990s to 11 days in 2012-2013.

Transpolar Sea Route (TSR): Climate models project that the Central Arctic Ocean may soon become ice-free in summer for a limited window, opening a seasonally navigable route across the North Pole

For Polar Class 7 vessels from 2023 to 2040, the Northwest Passage excluding Baffin Bay is navigable from May to July, and from August to October the entire Arctic Ocean is navigable except for the eastern part of the Central Arctic Nature.

The period from 2025 to 2045 represents a critical navigability transition that may offer opportunities for maritime policy evaluation and revision

Denver Gregg's avatar

while it seems likely he really does want Greenland and that there are good reasons for it, the way he's pushing it seems like it's largely meant as a distraction from some other thing(s).

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

That's usually a good theory but Donald doesn't seem to take breaks from doing big things, nor for having much concern about the threats of others. Running on Epstein while he was essentially beneficiary number one of the sex and blackmail fiasco indicates that he is blessedly free of the sort of calculations lesser mortals make.

Ataraxis's avatar

Anything that confuses the EU, keeps them off balance, and makes them rollover like little lapdogs is fine with me.

Never, ever forget: Every American paid for every European’s extended Summer vacation for decades. The vacations WE never got to take. F them!

Melvyn Punymeyer's avatar

This. I've been arguing online with Europoors a lot lately and feel I almost know them personally. They're that manipulative roommate you had back in college or maybe right after college, the guy who left the shitter a mess, his dirty dishes in the sink and never paid his rent on time, but had an excellent talent for dissembling and deflection.

My favorite Europoor talking point of the moment is "you Yanks were the only country that invoked Article 5. We were there for you. Therefore you have nothing to say about NATO."

"We" never invoked A5, Nato did, but they ALL believe GWB, hands trembling, got on the hotline and screamed "please help us Europe, WE NEED HELP IMMEDIATELY." They really believe that. This is Mommie Dearest level shit.

Ataraxis's avatar

Good stuff! Here’s a great story about the European concept of vacations compared to how hard working Americans experience it.

I was at a family Christmas party, and one of the cousins at the party lived in Germany but was in the US with her German husband for the party. He spoke English very well. As the evening wound down, I mentioned that I had to get going because I had to work the next day. He said to me “aren’t you on holiday vacation” and I said “no, I only took a 3 day weekend.” He looks at me confused and says “what’s a 3 day weekend?” I explain to him that I just extended the weekend by one day to save my vacation days for later. He was still confused and said to me “why didn’t you just take the whole week off?”

That’s the whole game right there. While we Americans are parsing out our precious days off one at a time, the Europeans wouldn’t even think of taking one single day off, they get so much vacation that they just take weeks off at a time instead.

Sadly, most Americans don’t know that because Americans subsidized Europe’s defense since 1945, the European countries spent their money on lavish benefits for their lazy citizens, and we freakin’ paid for it! Now with President Trump, this decades long grift ends once and for all. The Europeans are nothing but a bunch of lazy and ungrateful slackers.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

America is the place to make money. Europe is a wonderful place to spend it. I go two months a year.

Ataraxis's avatar

I’m a big fan of Slovenia. I will never understand how most Europeans love the country they live in, but then cede their sovereignty to the EU. Either you’re sovereign or you’re not. Or, in other words, either you’re a serf, or not.

Thomas Wallace's avatar

great country. the EU is like the US, and countries like big states...EU avoids a European civil war like WW1 and WW2.

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

We didn't get vacations because Americans are too stupid to demand them. That isn't Europe's fault and they won't give Americans what Amerisans are too silly to take for themselves. Not will the wealth of American oligarchs trickle down to you. Regardless of whence comes the wealth.

Ataraxis's avatar

That’s an interesting viewpoint. Thank you.

FYI: I retired at a young age due to working hard.

Best of luck to you!

David's avatar

Trump was the first one willing to move the Overton window on immigration and DEI, and I give him great credit for that. Now that the window is moved, it would be nice to have someone in charge who doesn’t make me cringe or roll my eyes on a weekly basis.

Paulus's avatar

It would be great if Trump could be about 20% less Trumpy. He has already racked up a lot of terrific accomplishments, but unfortunately the people who swing elections are probably more influenced by him saying, "Quiet, Piggy," than they are by any of the important things. Trump said of Musk, "He’s 80% super genius and 20% he makes mistakes," but something similar could be said of him.

questing vole's avatar

The sympathetic interpretation is that this is a clever, if not so subtle way to anger NATO into doing something which will give the Donald a justification for abrogating American treaty obligations. The more likely explanation is that the Donald is a bit off his rocker about this particular subject for some reason known only to him (the Norwegians aren't behind this).

Erik's avatar

To be fair, Steve's post indicates the Trump post was in response to the Norwegian Prime Minister saying something. It's petulant but it makes sense in context. I don't think this means he wants to take Greenland because he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize he so deserves. He's more saying "you guys didn't notice I was President Peacenik for four years so you have no right to complain when I switch off that.".

Frankly I can see why Trump would be peeved by the lack of a peace prize especially if he was thinking about it to himself all those years. The fact that he didn't get one and I mean, shit, pick your terrible example of anyone who did, and you can see where he might want to twist the Norwegian Premier's tit a little if he's speaking up for peace. I don't know what he actually said to set this off.

questing vole's avatar

I meant that he was a bit off his rocker about Greenland, not about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

Beemac's avatar

Other presidents offered to buy Greenland but Denmark turned down the deal

Ataraxis's avatar

Andrew Johnson, William Taft, Harry Truman, and Donald Trump.

Guess who sold us the Virgin Islands?

The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

I looked it up on Wiki: Denmark, after several abortive deals in the 19th century. And the reasoning was somewhat convoluted:

a majority of the Folketinget was convinced that the Danish supremacy of the islands had to end.[11] World War I had created a new situation: the relations between Germany and the United States were becoming worse as a consequence of Germany's unrestricted submarine warfare, and the Americans were concerned that, after an invasion of Denmark, Germany might take control of the islands.[12] This would be unacceptable to the Americans as stated in the Monroe Doctrine.

The Danish government was convinced that the islands had to be sold for the sake of both the residents and Danish security, and that a transfer would have to be realised before the United States entered the war, so that the transfer would not become a violation of Danish neutrality

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I'll repeat: Trump as Developer-In-Chief has a lot more explanatory power than Trump as Saruman to Putin's Sauron, or Trump as adventurer-conqueror, or Trump as monarch (lol!). But Trump's critics hate such pedestrian explanations, since in their heads Trump just has to be Dr. Evilest Evil, running his Presidential SUV over pregnant lesbian immigrants just for spite. (Query: when was the last time Trump actually drove himself somewhere?)

Ataraxis's avatar

FYI. The Secret Service won’t let a President drive.

The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

I bet Trump hasn't driven himself in a car since 1995.

John Mansfield's avatar

Steve Sailer a couple years ago was writing of Biden's progressive young staff unleashed to go all woke by Biden's agedness. Probably a big element of the current administration's bellicosity is self-styled Secretary of "War" Pete Hegseth. He wants to lead an army at war, and Trump is happy to go along with that.

"Sink boats in the Caribbean? That sounds like fun, Pete. Drop an airborne division in Minnesota to quell the insurrection? I like the way you think, Pete. Invade Greenland and start a war with Denmark and NATO? Pete, you are such an enthusiastic young man. I love it."

Yadidya (YDYDY)'s avatar

Trump chooses his underlyings based on bis belief that they are no threat to him. He has gagillions of competent people working for him down the line, but his immediate action agents are nearly all fools. Remember his lawyer Michael Cohen, or his other lawyer, that 3rd place winning Idaho beauty pageant winner? Or the doctor who said he was the healthiest person to run for president since Jesus Christ? Hegseth is just a tool. If he had any capacity for Independence he would not have been chosen.

Daniel Beegan's avatar

Did we trade Senile Joe for Senile Don?

The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Every year over 65 is downhill, unfortunately.

ScarletNumber's avatar

O/T

For the first time ever, I purchased the Dilbert Page-a-Day Calendar for 2026 for the macabre reason that I didn’t think there would be a 2027 version. I have to say when I arrive at work each day it brings a smile to my face. I paid $22 for mine but when I just went on Amazon to see if the price went up, it no longer seems to be listed at all. The product was an Amazon exclusive and enterprising customers have listed them on eBay for $200

Paulus's avatar

I miss Scott. Such a useful and insightful commentator.

RevelinConcentration's avatar

I think you nailed it. No person should be eligible to be president after 75. Too risky that they won’t go off the rails. Let’s see if any of his loyalists will tell him no.

The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

65, which is when most professional service firms require their partners to divest their equity.

True story: a name partner at a MidLaw firm with a decent national footprint started making some poor judgment calls as he approached 70, and was politely told divest and we will give you a solid six figures a year and a corner office, but you are out of firm management and ownership. He refused and resigned in a huff. After several years running his solo practice into the ground, he was dead from a brain tumor, and everyone wondered how long he'd had the condition. There was another superstar name partner with whom I was familiar, and his last trial was a cruel embarrassment. You really do need to know when to leave.

I'm re-watching The Crown and Winston Churchill is finally realizing the times have passed him by, and El Donaldo, for whom I've voted four times, is no Winston Churchill.

Rick Vinas's avatar

Steve, consider why DJT ran for President to begin with: Obama tried to embarrass him at the WHCD and said something like “You say I’m a bad President. First you have to *be* President…”, and that was that!

zinjanthropus's avatar

Obama went after Trump at the WHCD because Trump was pushing birtherism.

AnotherDad's avatar

> Steve, consider why DJT ran for President to begin with: Obama ... <

Trump has imagined himself as President for at least 40 years or so if not longer. He ran--briefly--as a Reform Party candidate in 2000, before anyone had ever heard of Obama.

Trump is probably 3SD or so out there in the narcissism department.

Denver Gregg's avatar

. . . more like 5SD imho, but he has a nearly equivalent empathy for the normal people so hated by the elites.

Ralph L's avatar

Someone with the personality disorder, like Meghan Markle, has to fake empathy, they're incapable. If Trump has been faking all these decades, he's awfully good at it by now.