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Brettbaker's avatar

But then people might decide we need to use the "California Program of ADOS Ethnic Cleansing" on a national level.....

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

Huh?

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Almost Missouri's avatar

Indeed that is exactly what everyone decided some time ago, which is exactly why they are all keen to prevent anyone else from doing that. How are they going to pass their hot potatoes (blacks) to someone else if everyone else is doing exactly the same thing?

For these urban renewal/gentrification (de-blacking) programs to work, someone needs to be the Greater Fool. The Greater Fool is the one who still believes The Narrative. Sadly for the ethnic cleansers, no one really believes The Narrative anymore. The only ones proclaiming The Narrative are the ones trying to palm off their ethnic hot potatoes on someone else, anyone else.

After the irrational exuberance of the George Floyd era, the market for the violent felon matrix population has comprehensively collapsed. Unfortunately, the usual successor stage to market collapse is government intervention. If no one will take the violent offender population, the government will force someone to take them.

The good news is that the Trump administration has now established the precedent of shifting undesirables to foreign shores. So far it is limited to a few non-citizens, but the precedent is set and the bureaucratic machinery is established. Lincoln's dream may at last be realized.

https://www.unz.com/jtaylor/the-true-face-of-the-great-emancipator/#p_1_7:24-50

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Boulevardier's avatar

I am not sure we should be too quick to think cities are locked into holding onto their criminals because no one else will take them. There are a lot of wealthier suburbs of big cities that are shifting blue since upper income whites have become Democratic voters.

Carmel, Indiana, which is regularly ranked as one of the best places to live in the US and is also known for the viral TikTok of its massive and well equipped high school, voted for Kamala last fall, as did the neighboring city of Fishers which is similar. The glories of diversity are regularly talked up and there are now Democrats who represent these places at the state legislature and city council levels who openly want to embrace progressive politics.

So while I do think it’s true more people are waking up to the realities of crime and/or hardening their attitudes, there are still plenty of well off bubbles whose residents think the laws of criminal gravity don’t apply to them.

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AMac78's avatar

> there are still plenty of well off bubbles whose residents think the laws of criminal gravity don’t apply to them.

In the environs of Rust Belt City, there are still plenty of well-off residents who think the laws of criminal gravity don't apply to not-too-distant lower-status neighborhoods.

Or perhaps they do apply: is the difference really that important?

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ScarletNumber's avatar

Wind of Change (Jan 1991) was the biggest hit of the German band Scorpions but they didn't coin the phrase. It seems to have originated with Conservative British prime minister Harold Macmillan in January 1960 in a speech given in Gold Coast; it signaled to his party that the process of the decolonization of Africa should continue post haste, which it did...

> The wind of change is blowing through this continent. Whether we like it or not, this growth of national consciousness is a political fact

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DAVID HANLON's avatar

I think he gave that speech to the South African Parliament in Cape Town.

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ScarletNumber's avatar

That was his second (and more famous) iteration of the speech which occurred a month later

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Ian's avatar

Another interglacial?

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Steven Carr's avatar

The 1898 white supremacist uprising was, of course, led by Democrats - a point not lost on NYT writers who knew that they could not mention the political affiliation of the white supremacists.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

Lynchings and riots by whites back then were in response to rapes, robberies and murders by blacks. Blacks have always been an immoral and violent race

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

It's par for the course of their inability to connect causes to effects that they wail about lynchings without ever considering that perhaps there was a reason for it. Like that idiot documentary The 19th in which they argue that black men are randomly plucked off the streets and thrown into prison -- for no reason.

It beggars disbelief, but this is blatant stupidity, and it's high time white people stop taking them and their piss poor reasoning seriously.

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Jesse Zuck's avatar

They probably think they're a toning for that sin.

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JMcG's avatar

The Daily Mail (For which, thank God.) has been doing its usual yeoman’s work on this. Last night they posted videos taken after the piece of filth murdered that poor girl. His fellow black passengers, male and female, reacted to the murder, not by rushing to her assistance, but by filming her dying moments and the spreading pool of her innocent blood.

A wind of change, indeed.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

They are not human. Iryna was worth more than any nigger who ever lived, even Dr Martin Luther Coon Jr and that scientist who invented peanut butter

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Danfromdc's avatar

Would the savage on the Charlotte metro have attacked a dark-haired white woman? Less likely imo. Blondes can be triggering for black maniacs.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

She had fair skin, but dark eyes eyes and bleached hair. Maybe vanity did her in

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Danfromdc's avatar

Yes, my point is women may start getting away from going blonde.

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JMcG's avatar

They’d be better off getting away from going unarmed.

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Elizabeth Hamilton's avatar

Come on Grand Mal Twerkin, her hair was hardly visible pulled back and under a cap. She was wearing no makeup and dressed in an unobtrusive uniform, hardly an example that day of vanity.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

he's either an account set up to spew discreditable venom or a genuine loon, I would suggest "do not feed"

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Craig in Maine's avatar

The “good” people of Maine (the ones that control taxes and spending) are convinced that if we award “affordable housing lottery winnings” to every “un-housed” addict all social ills will cease. The reason it hasn’t worked so far is because we haven’t spent enough money, “or something”.

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Boulevardier's avatar

I was involved with a project that had 15 units set aside for the homeless. Had multiple ODs in the first year with at least one fatal. Same property had a homicide earlier this year when a "youth" shot his stepfather dead in the hallway after an argument with the mother. Another project I know of had three deaths in its first year (out of like 50 units), including one being a child who ingested drugs left out by the parent.

We simply have a portion of the population that is incapable of policing themselves. It increasingly seems to me that the only options are either aggressively removing and institutionalizing them permanently or total neglect so their behavior lets nature take its course. The option of treating them like normal people who simply need more "resources" obviously does not work.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Years ago I became familiar with an adult housing complex for adults with intellectual disabilities. There was not a violence problem but the entity that ran it said it took more time and energy than anything else they did. There were constant issues with maintenance, squabbles, opportunistic swiping of stuff, and one guy got caught in a police sting for corresponding in a sexual way with an underage girl who was actually a police officer. Normally I'd suggest such men be pushed into the nearest volcano but in his case it's likely he was simply delighted that anybody at all was writing back to him on a dating site.

These were people who were as they were by the hand of God, but they were A LOT to manage. "Support" wasn't enough; a tremendous amount of direct intervention was necessary on a continual basis. The idea that at base everybody just needs "support" to stay on the straight and narrow doesn't take into account strong human tendencies to dive straight towards trouble and devil take the hindmost.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

If Pam Bondi doesn’t execute that nigger, and the nigger who murdered that veterinarian, she better watch her back. Executions must become swift, common, and plentiful, or lynchings will, and Pam might [Redacted]

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

Why does the Progressive media protect black criminality?

What's in it for them -- and the rest of us?

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barnabus's avatar

They are protecting the Democrat voting machine.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Yes same reason city councilmen and mayors tolerate hoovervilles. Vote banks, and cushy social work and grant money for your friends.

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barnabus's avatar

You could only change THAT by introducing a high property value franchise. That was the British way in the 19th century. Or like the Prussian one, having a tricameral electoral system based on tax revenue. There, every elector fell into one of 3 electoral slots based on one bottom third, one middle third or one top third of total tax revenue.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

"All men are created equal" is the most misbegotten and malapropriated phrase since "In Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek."

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barnabus's avatar

All men are created equal doesn't mean one man one vote. It's only a reference to legal equality - not that a judge could decide alone cases against people type A and trial by jury needed in case of people type B. Many of the founding US states had franchise requirements. I think some also had local religious tests for officers and elected officials?

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countenanceblog the expat's avatar

The "muh crime is down" excuse almost always comes down to referring to actual homicides. Perhaps so, but the violent and violence-adjacent crime that causes the real quality of life issues are the crimes that aren't as serious as murder.

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Ralph L's avatar

I hadn't realized until recently that "affordable housing" always meant subsidized, with all that that entails.

The states that need asylums the most are in the worst financial shape due to mismanagement. We shouldn't enable them even more with Federal money.

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Guest007's avatar

Since Steve does not do public policy implementation, Steve refuses to think about how to get guns out of the hands of young black men when 29 states have constitutional carry laws and when Republicans are pushing to cut local taxes https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/07/politics/property-taxes-abolish-florida-texas

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barnabus's avatar

Irina was murdered with a knife.

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Guest007's avatar

Steve keeps wanting to go back to 1990's stop and frisk when 29 states have laws that would make stop and frisk impossible.

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barnabus's avatar

Laws can be changed.

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Guest007's avatar

The most likely change is more states adopt constitutional carry.

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barnabus's avatar

Maybe. But I don't see current red state discussion going that way. It's more about employing national guard in crime-infested and Dem-controlled big cities.

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Guest007's avatar

But Steve's policy proposal for the long term is more stop and frisk since the National Guard is not a long term solution. . Also, locking more people up for longer periods of time does not work when state and local governments are cutting spending.

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Michael Watts's avatar

What about constitutional carry would make stop-and-frisk impossible? It seems like it will work fine without adjustment.

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Guest007's avatar

Stop and frisk worked in NYC because, at the time, NYC had very tough gun laws. When openly carrying a handgun is not probable cause, then stop and frisk cannot work.

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PE Bird's avatar

You don't need to frisk someone with an open carry. The idea is to get illegal guns off the street. Criminals typically do not register their firearms.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Same for Julie Schneule.

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barnabus's avatar

Tell me more about her :D ! Google has blacklisted references to her...

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

LOL could Big Tech be more evil. Just burn this motherfucker down.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Way to keep your eye on the ball, sport.

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Guest007's avatar

Once again, Steve does not think in terms of public policy.

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barnabus's avatar

Elon has already remarked that every MSM medium is blanketting out the NC murder data point. Don't see how you can move people out of their bubble if there is a wall-to-wall non-reporting. My suspicion is that a lot of MSM is loss-making, and depends on rich and progressive sugar daddies.

If one wants to break into this bubble, one would probably need Congress and state/local legislatures awarding every mandate (or even the runner-up) with appropriate amount of media money, dependent on number of electors plus mandate duration. So legislators - either alone or in coalition, can build their media concerns according to their tastes. If it is done right, you would end up with two sides of any story - a progressive and a conservative one - in every electoral seat.

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Rachael  Morgan's avatar

I hope her memory will be the catalyst for real change

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Guest007's avatar

And what change will conservatives be willing to pay additional taxes to implement?

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

We don't need additional taxes. We just need to spend some of the governments' trillions they extract from private wealth on actual public goods.

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Guest007's avatar

If one want a larger county jail due to no bail and arrests of homeless, then be prepared to pay more local taxes.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Plenty of fat to cut, don't you worry.

Lynch mobs are even cheaper. We got the Overton frame shifted enough to elect Trump, we can get the Overton frame shifted for vigilantism too if you like.

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The Anti-Gnostic's avatar

Steve - you are still missing the low hangiest of the low hanging fruit. It's looking like a supermajority of the crime is being committed by a superminority of people, and we can tag them in a race neutral manner. Libertarian Jeremy Kauffman is pointing out recidivists with 3 or more prior crimes are committing 80% of all crime. Scott Alexander is reportedly saying 8 ARRESTS and you should be in prison for life. That's how obvious the numbers are getting.

Trump and Vance should start pushing for a national three strikes law. Two charges for conduct amounting to a violent felony, regardless of whether you get first offender treatment, nolle pross, or you plea them down, and the third strike you are OUT. Incorrigible. Execution or imprisonment for life. Heck, we'll be merciful and say the State parole board can consider letting you out after you've cooked for at least 30 years.

Don't we have this new toy called "AI" now? Let's pull some of the DOGE lads away from cataloging all the massive entitlements and grant fraud. Turn them loose on criminal recidivism. I bet they could have a statistical model built in an afternoon. We do not have to live like this.

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barnabus's avatar

Why not execute anyone who has a longer than 15 year sentence as a statutory law? With a 15 year sentence anyone is a net loss to the society anyway.

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JMcG's avatar

Because judges would then refuse to hand out such sentences.

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JMcG's avatar

What you say is true, but will immediately result in disparate impact. Steve has been trumpeting the effects of allowing ourselves to be collared by the government and corporate policies meant to eliminate disparate impact for many, many years.

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Bob Thebuilder's avatar

Make Executions Great Again

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Michael Watts's avatar

Per your discussion of Florence, I thought you might be interested in the typical mode of apartment living in a Chinese city:

It's possible to live in an apartment building that opens directly onto the street, but this isn't common.

Most buildings are part of a walled community called a 小区 ("small region"). Apartment buildings don't form a wall blocking the street themselves. Rather, an actual wall is built to protect the complex from the street, with manned gates to let residents in and out, and the buildings are freestanding inside the complex. Depending on how expensive the complex is, the grounds will also contain various amenities, such as exercise machines, landscaped walking paths, water features, children's playgrounds, and/or badminton courts.

It's not unlikely that there will also be a public park with more extensive playgrounds and walking paths located nearby.

In the complex where I lived in 2023, there was one large gate which was manned and generally stood open, and there was also a small gate which was unmanned, stood closed, and could be opened by looking into a camera and being acknowledged by automatic facial recognition. I was never registered for that, so I always used the large gate.

That complex was directly across the street from both a grocery store (on one block) and an enormous park (on another).

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Paulus's avatar
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I visited a friend in Wilmington, NC, who lives in a large suburban development enclosed by a wall of outward-facing retail stores around its perimeter. Entrances have a gate requiring a key-card. Not as secure as it could be, but during a period of civil disorder it could be more easily closed off than the typical suburban neighborhood.

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Michael Watts's avatar

(Leaning more into the genre of "fun trivia", I glossed 小区 as "small region" above, and 区 does mean region now - the California "Bay Area" is translated 湾区 - but the character seems to have referred to these urban complexes first and later generalized to mean "region", since the traditional form 區 directly depicts a bunch of buildings (or, depending on interpretation, people) standing inside a wall.)

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

this is a suggestion that "as we become a low trust society let's live the way low trust societies do". It's really only Anglophone countries that have the open front lawn / house set up. Everywhere in the third world middle class family homes are within their own walled compounds. Once a colleague from North Africa remarked to me how nervous the standard Canadian home set up made him -- no surrounding wall! Living that way to him looked like walking around with no pants on, just what the hell? How could you ever be at ease?

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